State of La Liga

oz187

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Judging by this weekend, the premiership has it's own gulf in quality what with Spurs and Arsenal both getting absolutely thrashed.
 

Andrew M

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Judging by this weekend, the premiership has it's own gulf in quality what with Spurs and Arsenal both getting absolutely thrashed.


Oh noooooooooooo! When Spanish football is dominating the world, it is the only argument parochial EPL fans have to fall back on.

The poor peoples with the most perfectedly bestest balanced league
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Premier League is financially balanced and fairly stable footballwise with some sings of sheikh money causing little upsets.
La Liga is both football and financial shithole with two clubs taking advantage of the league's level to get even more prestige.

You do realize that 3 English leagues are in top15 attendance over the season statistics? That is three, not just EPL, Championship is 7th and League-1 13th. Now look at Spanish Segunda and their non-quality.

And I'm not a Premier League fan, that's the way things are.
 

Andrew M

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Premier League is financially balanced and fairly stable footballwise with some sings of sheikh money causing little upsets.
La Liga is both football and financial shithole with two clubs taking advantage of the league's level to get even more prestige.

You do realize that 3 English leagues are in top15 attendance over the season statistics? That is three, not just EPL, Championship is 7th and League-1 13th. Now look at Spanish Segunda and their non-quality.

And I'm not a Premier League fan, that's the way things are.


You know that we would give anything for a national team of Spain's level in this country.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
That's just the case of foreign talent being better than local talent and it's good business for UK to utilise this.

Polish people (my origin) would give anything for any sum of money to be invested in the league, local infrastructure and capable coaching and managing. We have talent, mostly keepers. But we don't moan about it. We have to wait for the opportunity to present itself (Euro 2012 has given some boost) and take advantage of it. England had the Bobby Charlton years. But then again situation was much different in Europe back then.

Spain are just lucky to have local talent and they are very unlucky to have dumb TV policies and management. You win some, you lose some.
 

dalitis8

Banned
Premier League is financially balanced and fairly stable footballwise with some sings of sheikh money causing little upsets.
La Liga is both football and financial shithole with two clubs taking advantage of the league's level to get even more prestige.

You do realize that 3 English leagues are in top15 attendance over the season statistics? That is three, not just EPL, Championship is 7th and League-1 13th. Now look at Spanish Segunda and their non-quality.

And I'm not a Premier League fan, that's the way things are.

That means that the English as a nation are more eager footballgoers than the Spanish, so what?

For all its wealth, the EPL would have been nothing spectacular without the Russian and the Arabs. Without them, Arsenal would have been the 2nd team in the land.

Just think about it.
 

Andrew M

New member
That's just the case of foreign talent being better than local talent and it's good business for UK to utilise this.

Polish people (my origin) would give anything for any sum of money to be invested in the league, local infrastructure and capable coaching and managing. We have talent, mostly keepers. But we don't moan about it. We have to wait for the opportunity to present itself (Euro 2012 has given some boost) and take advantage of it. England had the Bobby Charlton years. But then again situation was much different in Europe back then.

Spain are just lucky to have local talent and they are very unlucky to have dumb TV policies and management. You win some, you lose some.


Yeah, it's all luck that Spain have the best national and club side in the world.
 

dalitis8

Banned
That's just the case of foreign talent being better than local talent and it's good business for UK to utilise this.

Polish people (my origin) would give anything for any sum of money to be invested in the league, local infrastructure and capable coaching and managing. We have talent, mostly keepers. But we don't moan about it. We have to wait for the opportunity to present itself (Euro 2012 has given some boost) and take advantage of it. England had the Bobby Charlton years. But then again situation was much different in Europe back then.

Spain are just lucky to have local talent and they are very unlucky to have dumb TV policies and management. You win some, you lose some.

So what is it that you want to see being done Wolfe?

You want Barca/Madrid to give their money to the rest of La Liga?
 

El Gato

Villarato!
So what is it that you want to see being done Wolfe?

You want Barca/Madrid to give their money to the rest of La Liga?

That seems to be what will need to be done one way or another. Besides there was already a discussion and news about Barca and Real donating some money and making a satisfactory temporary deal when Del Nido was making threats.
 

adil_909

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greed is human nature, sadly. if allowed, we will lie and cheat and take and take and take. this is where authorities have to step in and control things. the fact that la liga is the way it is is not barca or madrid's fault - the fault likes with the spanish FA.
 

La Furia

Legion of Doooom
I don't think anyone expects La Liga to become like an American sport where the league micromanages details to keep everyone competitive (though there is a reason NFL is so profitable, and it's also funny how the most capitalism-crazy country in the world runs their sports like communists - but that's a different topic); it's just not possible in football, where everything is so international. Absolute equality just doesn't work in football, you'd have to abolish promotion/relegation to give the league absolute control, and you'd be so detached from the rest of the world that you'd fade into irrelevance if you tried to bring in American-style equalizers like a cap and a draft.

It's not like the EPL is in good shape right now either, three clubs are clearly financially dominant there too. The Bundesliga is probably the most well rounded big league, but a lot of that has to do with the size and economic situation of Germany.

But something needs to be done. Revenue sharing is a start, there will still be haves and have-nots but it'll do a long way preventing clubs from imploding the way Depor, Celta, Betis, Alaves, Mallorca, etc etc etc. have.

The fact that the third and fourth most popular clubs in Spain (Valencia and Atletico) make as much in TV revenue as the bottom tier premier league clubs is telling. Granted Spain's economy being non-existent isn't helping the matter, though the fact that Barcelona and Madrid have never been healthier is telling.
 

Barcafire

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Forlan's gone. Deal agreed to move to San Siro.

Aguero and Mata left our league too this year. I bet that Nilmar and Rossi are gone next season. Any good players left in La Liga asides those on Barcelona and Real Madrid?

Jeez.
 

Richard.H

Senior Member
If money is shared throughout the league, I think it would be a great idea. This would force clubs to have youth academies. I must say that Barca would be at a 2 decade reign if such a thing does occur because our youth is immense while our main rival is forced to solely buy.
 

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