State of La Liga
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Beast
The Observer
Again ....40 Million divide by 18 clubs = 2.2 Million per club
I don't see that amount doing anything to help those clubs.....
liga needs to be marketed good to increase the club shares that's all , otherwise they are just riding on Real & Barca success ...
and before that get proper management on top
I don't see that amount doing anything to help those clubs.....
liga needs to be marketed good to increase the club shares that's all , otherwise they are just riding on Real & Barca success ...
and before that get proper management on top
Irish_Cules
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This is a worrying summer for La Liga. It has been losing big players for a few years now but this summer could be especially bad. Falcao is gone already and the likes of Isco, Navas, Soldado and Banega look likely to follow. The league needs to sort out the TV rights issue ASAP.
Beast
The Observer
Not really mate , if Silva , Mata and co didn't leave you wouldn't be talking about Soldado , Isco and co
If we (la liga fans/clubs) didn't lose Torres we wouldn't see Aguero , and if we didn't lose Aguero we wouldn't see Falcao and if we didn't lose Falcao we wouldn't see the duet of Baptistao and Diego Costa next season
It's a cycle ... those cash injections help those clubs who are forced to dig for the next gem
all will be good at the end...
If we (la liga fans/clubs) didn't lose Torres we wouldn't see Aguero , and if we didn't lose Aguero we wouldn't see Falcao and if we didn't lose Falcao we wouldn't see the duet of Baptistao and Diego Costa next season
It's a cycle ... those cash injections help those clubs who are forced to dig for the next gem
all will be good at the end...
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
AnfieldEd
I am Leg End
Except for the fact the next bunch just aren't as good as the previous batch and so forth.
Beast
The Observer
Not really
for me Isco is better than Silva.. more technical and Falcao is better than both Aguero and Torres
Diego Costa went under the radar of all but he was a probably as important as Falcao for Atletic...
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
Falcao is definitely a better forward than Torres or Aguero
The next duo of Baptistao and Costa will actually be better for Atletico since they are very versatile and technically strong forwards. That's better in the long run than relying on a target man like Falcao.
La Liga has coped well so far, but eventually that cycle can fall short. There's more and more competition for the top players and top prospects now. In addition to Falcao, Monaco got Moutinho and Rodriguez who are the kind of players La Liga would have previously brought in to replace their lost talent. I don't see a collapse because their is enough football intelligence to make the best of things in La Liga, but there is a possibilty of a further slow decline in this next period.
Irish_Cules
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That is true to an extent and I understand that. However, I think that it is slowly wearing down the talent pool. It's simply unsustainable. For example, if we say that roughly 5 talents leave La Liga each summer, its extremely difficult to replace all of these year in year out. We may see roughly 3 talents emerge each year to replace them but overall the depth of talent is decreasing. I think La Liga has enough quality young talent, scouting systems and coaches to maintain its status but its a process that needs to be stopped as soon as possible. It looks like the tv rights deal will be sorted out within 2-3 years so I don't think the situation will become too bad.
I agree about what you said in a previous post about La Liga needing better marketing and management. The way it is being run at the moment is a shambles.
Beast
The Observer
Well that would be true if La liga are counting in Spanish talent pool alone (and of course there will come a time when it drys out again and the amount of talent will decrease ) however this is not the case.. La liga clubs scout all over the world so you have young talents from Brazil , Colombia , Argentina , France , Netherlands.. it's all about having a good eye for talent
If you look closely you have Varane who is young and cost us peanuts (could have been bought by any medium size club not just RM ) , you have Griezmann another French hot shot in Sociedad , Raktic (the Croat ) who has the highest assist in the table after a selection of Barca & Real players , Carlos Vela (Mexico) , Diego Costa, Jonas Babtistao (Brazil ) Feghouli (Algeria )
Overall we are getting better results for the scouting talent compared to the EPL , Bundesliga , Dutch, French(apart from Africans & north Africans or originally were before they got the nationality )
Those pin point eye for talent allow the Spanish clubs to make one hell pot of money from the other rich clubs (Barca & Real included ) the only team that can match La Liga is actually Porto followed by Benfica... (I think it's an Iberian thing ) but when you look at Seville who bought Alves for 400 K and sold him for 35 Million to Barca now that's business , eventually those players return to those clubs if they didn't adapt to the high pressure and for peanuts costing Barca and Real a lot and other clubs too (see Canales , see Riquelme , see Forlan etc) eventually things even out but the Spanish clubs stupid owners / presidents waste money on other stuff
If you look closely you have Varane who is young and cost us peanuts (could have been bought by any medium size club not just RM ) , you have Griezmann another French hot shot in Sociedad , Raktic (the Croat ) who has the highest assist in the table after a selection of Barca & Real players , Carlos Vela (Mexico) , Diego Costa, Jonas Babtistao (Brazil ) Feghouli (Algeria )
Overall we are getting better results for the scouting talent compared to the EPL , Bundesliga , Dutch, French(apart from Africans & north Africans or originally were before they got the nationality )
Those pin point eye for talent allow the Spanish clubs to make one hell pot of money from the other rich clubs (Barca & Real included ) the only team that can match La Liga is actually Porto followed by Benfica... (I think it's an Iberian thing ) but when you look at Seville who bought Alves for 400 K and sold him for 35 Million to Barca now that's business , eventually those players return to those clubs if they didn't adapt to the high pressure and for peanuts costing Barca and Real a lot and other clubs too (see Canales , see Riquelme , see Forlan etc) eventually things even out but the Spanish clubs stupid owners / presidents waste money on other stuff
Irish_Cules
New member
Decent article on the financial state of La Liga
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/pain-in-spain-la-liga-in-financial-turmoil-8721595.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/pain-in-spain-la-liga-in-financial-turmoil-8721595.html
nebeer
Love is All
It really is a matter of great concern as to why La Liga is doing so bad financially. The big Sheikhs buy up clubs everywhere except Spain. Other than the big 2, no other club can hold on to their star players. How this situation can change is beyond me.
Maria
New member
Barca and RM each take almost 140M euros/year and you're saying that they should just give up at 40M? The way I see, the most those 2 big clubs should take/year is 80M, which would give 120M euros to be split between the 18 clubs = 6.7M per club. Those money would help the spanish club to keep players like Luis Alberto, Aspas or Michu in the league..and on top of that Barca and RM won't be able to afford to buy Cesc when they have Xavi+Iniesta+Thiago or Isco when they have Ozil-Di Maria-Kaka and thus not making the gap at the top even bigger.
I agree that they should get proper management, but how is a fair distribution riding on RM&Barca's succes? Don't those 2 need some poor teams every Sunday against which Messi and Cristiano could score their hattricks and give Marca, As, Sport and MD material to write their articles on why Messi is better than Cristiano/Cristiano is better than Messi?
Raed
Dr. Raed St. Claire
Messi scored 4 against a top Bundes Liga side, in the champions league or something stupid like that. If he played anywhere (same for Ronaldo) else he'd score just as much. I mean Bayern without Messi crushed their league (including Barcelona) so it really isn't about TV rights. Spanish sides made it through to the semi finals and quarter finals in the CL. It is the money but it isn't the money. 7 La Liga clubs started the season without sponsors, which is a total farce, a 5-10 million a year stream of revenue gone with the wind due to poor management skills. Real Madrid and Barcelona agreed to collectively bargain better deals which means they are using their heavy weights to give more money to smaller clubs. Real Madrid has given smaller clubs over 20 players from their cantera for cheap, players that were later rated between 10-30 million Euros. Both Barca and Madrid suffocate the league in so many ways but they also serve them freebies.
Better TV rights won't change the status quo of Madrid and Barcelona on top which is ultimately the driving reason 25 La liga players bounced (see Negredo's comments). They want to win a league title and they can do it in England/Italy/Germany/France, they won't win it in Spain. Having said that, Gotze bounced to Bayern anyway.
Better TV rights won't change the status quo of Madrid and Barcelona on top which is ultimately the driving reason 25 La liga players bounced (see Negredo's comments). They want to win a league title and they can do it in England/Italy/Germany/France, they won't win it in Spain. Having said that, Gotze bounced to Bayern anyway.
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