Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Just one game? Again, where is all the evidence that Barca won those titles all those years only because they received help from the referees?
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Just one game? Again, where is all the evidence that Barca won those titles all those years only because they received help from the referees?
It is supposed to prove absurdity of statement of Mr. Jaguar about Barcelona not receiving a fraction of help Madrid allegedly did.
What followed is a Neymar dive and another penalty. Obvious one to the point guys at top rows were able to see it crystal clear. But not mr. Hernandez. A red card also. In a crucial match of the season. Ay caramba! Or that foul on Varane by Suarez. Hernandez experienced temporary blindness. Followed by temporary deafness when fourth ref was calling foul on Varane. Tons of material. But hey, no help from refs. According to the Barca lore.
Raketa10
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CatalinR10
Senior Member
hahahahahahah FUCKING LOL
Do you remember the context of why this penalty was given or just like to talk fucking trash ?
This is a season where Barca were refused clear as fuck penalties for a long period of time in La Liga while RM got them left or right.
This was the season RM won La Liga iirc and as soon as they had a good advantage of points over Barcelona and Barcelona couldn't catch them anymore , Barca started to receive penalties aswell.
Till this day I remember this fucking penalty because the absurdness of it LMAO. It was just a ,, here , take this shit penalty when the league is basically over just so you don't have any reasons to complain that we helped RM "
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Anecdotal bits and pieces. As if Madrid didn't receive any favorite calls. All top clubs did. Which is entirely different from what I have been asking you: Where is the evidence that Barca won the titles all those years only thanks to favorite calls?
Sorin
Well-known member
RM was already Champion at that point. It didn?t help Barcelona at all in the race for the trophy. Or is that detail lost on you?
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Now the CSD (Higher Sport Council) is a dog in the fight too.
Jose Manuel Franco: "I ask Mr. Laporta to clarify once and for all what has happened, if there are things that we do not know, to say them, the social mass of FC Barcelona also deserves an explanation"
https://www.palco23.com/entorno/el-csd-tambien-se-personara-en-la-causa-del-caso-negreira
Jose Manuel Franco: "I ask Mr. Laporta to clarify once and for all what has happened, if there are things that we do not know, to say them, the social mass of FC Barcelona also deserves an explanation"
https://www.palco23.com/entorno/el-csd-tambien-se-personara-en-la-causa-del-caso-negreira
Maybe, if i was actually responding to you and your context. To add to that, why exactly are you asking me something for which i have never claimed to begin with:"...only won thanks to favorite calls..."? Premium red herring i must say.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Red herring? What the heck were you trying to insinuate with this "I would say 16 league and 13 Copa del Rey titles since the 90s, vs Madrid with 10 / 7, is quite fantastic. Seems it was money well spent." then?
You responded with perceived cases of Barca receiving favorite calls. Who hasn't? Madrid? Give me a break.
Already a Champion with still 20+ minutes to go. That is some new concept right there.
In what shape or form does that indicate "only"?
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
"Only" or not, what you said above did imply that money bought those titles and trophies, didn't it?
Not any close to only. Quality must be there, especially now considering the days of blatant match fixing are much harder to do as in the past. But, 8M definitely went nicely along to reduce variance.
To be honest if people are unable to comprehend why paying millions to high ranking official of ref organization, is bad...well then...
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Not any close to only. Quality must be there, especially now considering the days of blatant match fixing are much harder to do as in the past. But, 8M definitely went nicely along to reduce variance.
To be honest if people are unable to comprehend why paying millions to high ranking official of ref organization, is bad...well then...
What variance? Basically just your wishy washy speculation.
Nobody is saying paying millions to high ranking officials of ref organization is good, and you have seen Barca fans here saying the club deserves all the punishment, including relegation and stripping titles etc, IF proven that we did try to influence the referees to obtain favorite decisions and calls. However, the picture and you and some other pathetic Madrid or whatever fans have been trying to paint is that Barca actually won those titles and trophies thanks to the refs' favorite calls. If you want to accuse us of that, you have to present proof, which games etc. and how those decisions helped Barca win titles etc. Well?
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