Thiago Silva

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Bonjour!
If PSG were looking for success right now and they have enough money then keeping Thiago Silva is a no brainer. But European football is really difficult right now with Bayern and Barca being so strong. Plus there's lots of teams with money(e.g Falcao going to Monaco, Chelsea, Man City, Madrid, Barca) so it's very difficult for anyone to compete. PSG got the league title this year, but Ibra is getting old now, and Thiago is older too. If they decide they can't compete with Barca and Bayern right now, maybe the best thing is to sell Thiago Silva and invest the money in younger players and aim to win the Champions League in 3 or 4 seasons time.


Bonjour ! ^^
The Qatari owners want to make their country famous for the World Cup and geopolitical reasons.
PSG, even if the last decade was an very underperforming club, had always his brightness in french Ligue 1, and we are planning to recover our past european prime (in the 90's, we were even ranked number one club one year).
We are building a global project: players, squad, even stadium and training facilities.
As for the players, we are mixing some promising players like Verratti, Pastore, Lucas and established stars like Zlatan and TS. So we are building the future by constituing a current strong team.
We have lot of money, more than we can spend actually. If Messi or CR7 was on sale, sure we would made a bid for them.
What i want to explain you, is that we have absolutely no reason to sell TS nor Ibrahimovic, nor Verratti nor Lucas (the two latter at at smaller extent). We only want to improve and there is no other defencer better than TS.
People who think we could sell him that easily are the same who thought Aguero would have last not more than one season at City. This latter renews his contract few weeks ago.
I can understand your frustration because you may think we are another sugar daddy club who doesn't deserve to have that kind of player.
The truth is big clubs had always money, and there is no history before you make it.
As a PSG fan since the mid nineteens (that makes me like Atletico in Spain with Kiko^^), i think we have our history for such a young club, and we deserve respect as we respect the others.
Bosman law weakens a lot the french league: all the goods players went abroad (essentially because of the huges wages) and f^rench league ended up to be a sub-par championship.
Even Messi who loves Barcelona manages to get a huge pay, so don't be contemptuous when players come to PSG. As i know our salary mass is way below than the big clubs (our players are also less good for now).

To be honest, i love Falcao. For me, he is the best pure 9 striker (i like aguero too). However, Monaco seems to have tight bounds whith Jorge Mendes, so i'm not surprised he went there. They are building an outstandind team for a club who has no European cup next year and they'll be a ver tough contender to the title. Ibra can do 2 more years at high levels i think and at this time we will have a new good forward (maybe not world class) at replacement.

The best chances you had to take TS was last year and i hope you'll see him a lot in CL next year (meaning we will go through poules stages).

We are related to Marquinhos too. I don't know if it's for real because we are related to almost every player. I have never seen him play, but some friends told me he is the future TS.
Maybe you should go all in for him.

To give you further information about our club transfer situation (sorry i know it is not the place), it's rumoured that we have something like 60M€ budget. We should sign Lucas Digne (19 years old LB) for 10-12M soon. Rumours say that we will get David Luiz for 30-35M (TS want him to play whith him), that Rooney is close for 40M. Hernanes was approached for 30M (i think it's not true), and we are keeping an eye on CR renewal situation.
The last cray rumour is that AVB will be our next coach and will come with Gareth Bale, but honestly, i don't see why, if he was offered to leave, Bale would prefer to come at PSG rather than at Real whow ants him so desperately.
 
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Duke

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Bonjour ! ^^
The Qatari owners want to make their country famous for the World Cup and geopolitical reasons.
PSG, even if the last decade was an very underperforming club, had always his brightness in french Ligue 1, and we are planning to recover our past european prime (in the 90's, we were even ranked number one club one year).
We are building a global project: players, squad, even stadium and training facilities.
As for the players, we are mixing some promising players like Verratti, Pastore, Lucas and established stars like Zlatan and TS. So we are building the future by constituing a current strong team.
We have lot of money, more than we can spend actually. If Messi or CR7 was on sale, sure we would made a bid for them.
What i want to explain you, is that we have absolutely no reason to sell TS nor Ibrahimovic, nor Verratti nor Lucas (the two latter at at smaller extent). We only want to improve and there is no other defencer better than TS.
People who think we could sell him that easily are the same who thought Aguero would have last not more than one season at City. This latter renews his contract few weeks ago.
I can understand your frustration because you may think we are another sugar daddy club who doesn't deserve to have that kind of player.
The truth is big clubs had always money, and there is no history before you make it.
As a PSG fan since the mid nineteens (that makes me like Atletico in Spain with Kiko^^), i think we have our history for such a young club, and we deserve respect as we respect the others.
Bosman law weakens a lot the french league: all the goods players went abroad (essentially because of the huges wages) and f^rench league ended up to be a sub-par championship.
Even Messi who loves Barcelona manages to get a huge pay, so don't be contemptuous when players come to PSG. As i know our salary mass is way below than the big clubs (our players are also less good for now).

To be honest, i love Falcao. For me, he is the best pure 9 striker (i like aguero too). However, Monaco seems to have tight bounds whith Jorge Mendes, so i'm not surprised he went there. They are building an outstandind team for a club who has no European cup next year and they'll be a ver tough contender to the title. Ibra can do 2 more years at high levels i think and at this time we will have a new good forward (maybe not world class) at replacement.

The best chances you had to take TS was last year and i hope you'll see him a lot in CL next year (meaning we will go through poules stages).

We are related to Marquinhos too. I don't know if it's for real because we are related to almost every player. I have never seen him play, but some friends told me he is the future TS.
Maybe you should go all in for him.

To give you further information about our club transfer situation (sorry i know it is not the place), it's rumoured that we have something like 60M€ budget. We should sign Lucas Digne (19 years old LB) for 10-12M soon. Rumours say that we will get David Luiz for 30-35M (TS want him to play whith him), that Rooney is close for 40M. Hernanes was approached for 30M (i think it's not true), and we are keeping an eye on CR renewal situation.
The last cray rumour is that AVB will be our next coach and will come with Gareth Bale, but honestly, i don't see why, if he was offered to leave, Bale would prefer to come at PSG rather than at Real whow ants him so desperately.


I don't know, do you speak on the behalf of the owners? or you work for them? With recent political development in Qatar, the emir may hand effective power to his 33-year-old son mostly because of corruption related to public project spending and foreign investments. You may think twice before you think your club has an open budget!

It will take PSG more that few years to challenge on the european front. Chelsea and City both owned by billionaires but they are only challenging domestic trophies so far (Chelsea won the CL after so many tries). You are right to be optimistic about PSG future but don't think you will join the elite anytime soon bro.
 

oz187

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What i want to explain you, is that we have absolutely no reason to sell TS nor Ibrahimovic, nor Verratti nor Lucas (the two latter at at smaller extent). We only want to improve and there is no other defencer better than TS.

You miss my point. PSG likely do have lots of money to spend, enough to keep TS if they want. However if they sell him they will receive a lot of money and the key point, is that they don't need to put that money in the bank. They can immediately reinvest it into the squad. TS is the best defender around right now, but in a few years time he won't be. For the long term project they could decide investing in younger players is a better option. It would be a sale from a position of strength rather weakness. I'm not saying it is likely, but there is a small possibility.
 

Newcomer

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I don't know, do you speak on the behalf of the owners? or you work for them? With recent political development in Qatar, the emir may hand effective power to his 33-year-old son mostly because of corruption related to public project spending and foreign investments. You may think twice before you think your club has an open budget!

It will take PSG more that few years to challenge on the european front. Chelsea and City both owned by billionaires but they are only challenging domestic trophies so far (Chelsea won the CL after so many tries). You are right to be optimistic about PSG future but don't think you will join the elite anytime soon bro.

I don't speak for the owners, i'm just a supporter. I known about emir abdication; the new one is the actul owner of the club. I said that we have a lot of money and that is why we won't sell a player we don't want to because we the financial aspect doesn't matter. Not like we are going to spend ridiculous amount for any player. We may have pay a little bit more than certain clubs in order to obtain the player we want but we try to have a good politic about that.
And yes, i'm confident for the club future, but you didn't understand me: in no way, i think we will win CL next year or the year after, but as the team improves we will have little chance within 5-10 years.
I"m not blind, clubs like real or bayern (barcelona roster rotation is tighter) has basically two teams which are better than ours and Real stole our coach. But time will tell if we can cope up, and this is our goal. So let's have faith ! We are supporter after all !! ^^


Sorry oz187. Honestly, we had a great chance to get TS. And i can't see any other players of his quality (whatever the place on the field) we could get. Why sell a world class to get promising unproven player if you can afford his wages ? And if you sell your best player, how do you want to hire other big players ? Quality calls quality.
I understand you, in your shoes, i'll hope TS to come at Barça. And nothing is never impossible, even more in football. I just wanted to explain that the kind of deal Alves+20M for TS won't happen.
He has 4years contract and he was bought for more than 40M€ so Barça should offer more than 50M€. I don't see that happen although i'm sure he will be pleased to wear your shirt.
For the future, we hope we will get more promising players from the youngers team and they will defend our coulour with the first team.
 
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ebc_99

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Tito has to put his foot down and make Zubi work for this. Thiago Silva would be perfect, and though he is expensive having the best defender in the world in your team has got to be worth it. At 28 he should have 3, 4 maybe 5 years at the top left and if Barca win a couple of Champions leagues then the money won't matter. I still think it will happen.
 

Newcomer

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Now that we found our new coach (Capello should sign tomorrow), i can't see TS leave the club (or us letting him leave). Latest rumours are Luiz for 45M€ and that we made an enourmous offer for CR7 (100M for fee, 23M for wage, nd 60M for contract prime). Think this nubers are going totally crazy. Luiz for 45M would be a nice deal for Chelsea, it's the same price we paid for TS and no wonder who is better.
 

Co0ter

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Now that we found our new coach (Capello should sign tomorrow), i can't see TS leave the club (or us letting him leave). Latest rumours are Luiz for 45M€ and that we made an enourmous offer for CR7 (100M for fee, 23M for wage, nd 60M for contract prime). Think this nubers are going totally crazy. Luiz for 45M would be a nice deal for Chelsea, it's the same price we paid for TS and no wonder who is better.

These billionaire owners are ruining the game. How can any team compete against a club that can throw around that much money like it's nothing? Why aren't there stricter rules on spending for this oil teams.
 

Jadentheman

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These billionaire owners are ruining the game. How can any team compete against a club that can throw around that much money like it's nothing? Why aren't there stricter rules on spending for this oil teams.

UEFA's Executive Committee unanimously approved a financial fair play concept for the game's well-being in September 2009. The concept has also been supported by the entire football family, with its principal objectives being:

• to introduce more discipline and rationality in club football finances;
• to decrease pressure on salaries and transfer fees and limit inflationary effect;
• to encourage clubs to compete with(in) their revenues;
• to encourage long-term investments in the youth sector and infrastructure;
• to protect the long-term viability of European club football;
• to ensure clubs settle their liabilities on a timely basis.

These approved objectives reflect the view that UEFA has a duty to consider the systemic environment of European club football in which individual clubs compete, and in particular the wider inflationary impact of clubs' spending on salaries and transfer fees.

In recent seasons, many clubs have reported repeated, and worsening, financial losses. The wider economic situation has created difficult market conditions for clubs in Europe, and this can have a negative impact on revenue generation and creates additional challenges for clubs in respect of the availability of financing and day-to-day operations. Many clubs have experienced liquidity shortfalls, leading for instance to delayed payments to other clubs, employees and social/tax authorities.

Therefore, as requested by the football family, and in consultation with the football family, UEFA is introducing sensible and achievable measures to realise these goals. They include an obligation for clubs, over a period of time, to balance their books or break even. Under the concept, clubs cannot repeatedly spend more than their generated revenues, and clubs will be obliged to meet all their transfer and employee payment commitments at all times. Higher-risk clubs that fail certain indicators will also be required to provide budgets detailing their strategic plans.

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The UEFA Executive Committee approved the formation of the two-chamber Club Financial Control Body (CFCB) in June 2012 to oversee the application of the UEFA Club Licensing System and Financial Fair Play Regulations.

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Obito Uchiha

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This guy is awesome. Fast, a beast in the air, etc. And the best CB in the world. Exactly what we need.
 

mixer

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Paris Saint-Germain centre back Thiago Silva (28) is open to join Barcelona and would be willing to take a salary cut. [md]

Do it.
 

Galning

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