Thiago Translantara
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barcetia
Mikrofonkåt
I disagree. Him playing bad was due to him, ultimately, playing badly and giving away balls due to crappy mistakes.
However, this was his first El Clasico from start and it was in the Bernacow and that is the reason. Not which players he played next to.
Him giving away possession is very typical of him. But he's had good performances despite. It does matter who u play with. You need team mates that compliment your game, of same wavelength and understanding, proficient in their roles. Messi is a classic example. Its not the factor but it is one.
Keita at DM doesn't really fill confidence for our creative players. Not just Thiago but the attack as a whole was poor on the day. A team that builds attack from the back needs an anchor, who not just partakes in the defensive duties but also the attacking aspect. Without the required distribution and retention from our DM, our possession and passing game suffers and so does the fluidity in the centre. You can't build on a weak base. Its not hard to see why the more creative players would look sub par in such circumstances. While the occasion could've played its part in Thiago's case, you can't overlook the above factor.
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Flavia
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Zubizarreta: "Thiago will have more than enough playing time because the season is long and there are many mintues to spread." [tv3 via ara]
Zubizarreta: "Thiago will have more than enough playing time because the season is long and there are many mintues to spread." [tv3 via ara]
Barcafan 2304
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That won't b enough for a lot here who will still predict he won't
Metaphysical
Bomb Dropper
fuck 'em. fuck 'em in the ear.
dalitis8
Banned
That is impossible, the only way for Thiago to not get enough playing time, is if he turns out to be crap tbh.
If he is any good, then we have 38 leage games, that will have to be squeezed during the Christmas holidays due to the strike. So, that is good news for Thiago.
We potentially have 7 CDR games, many of which he will prolly start. We may draw easy opponents in the CL GS, which means that he will start again. In games wit weak teams like Getafe or Granada at home he may also start, he will also come in from the bench sometimes.
Plus, consider that with any injury for anyone out of the 3 musketeers, then he is automatically elevated into the number 1 in reserve.
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HBS7708
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Despite all the hype surrounding Thiago, he is not ready and may never be good enough to play in the center of a pitch for crucial matches for Barcelona FC because:
A. his movements off the ball is slow and lazy; it shows the lack of footballing intelligence and endurance that Xavi possesses;
B. his passing is erratic.
He could be deployed at wing positions and be useful.
A. his movements off the ball is slow and lazy; it shows the lack of footballing intelligence and endurance that Xavi possesses;
B. his passing is erratic.
He could be deployed at wing positions and be useful.
Manuel Traquete
New member
He's better than both Xavi and Iniesta were when they were 20. Let's give him time to develop before making such rash judgements.
Barcafan 2304
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Jeez, doom and gloom. Give him time. Barca would not have pushed through the contratc extention this summer if they were not going to play him or saw him as part of the future.
Plip
Cardenal de Catalunya
Agreed.
It's slightly odd that there are a lot of members here treating Thiago as a finished product and making such allegations as "he may never be good enough." The arguments they back their claims with aren't overly impressive either, given attributes such as movement off the ball, concentration, endurance, passing are half talent and half hard work.
Thiago is still a youngster and has time on his side to improve himself even further. Nobody would probably deny that he is obviously talented, but the rest will come the more he matures and the more experience he gains. He has already shown what he is capable of (f.ex: vs. Vila-real) and he has had a really good preseason too. Patience is the key with him, and I believe both him and Cesc can become a suitable duo for the future.
What comes to comparisons made with Xavi, you lot seem to have extremely short memories. When Xavi first took over in the late 90's / early 00's he was nowhere near the level he is now. Do you remember his first few seasons with us? Do you remember the expectations he had to carry from taking over from Guardiola after the mastero had his last season with us? The fact that some were even considering of selling him to Chelsea at that time is a decent indication of how good he was considered to be back then.
Not to say we can directly compare these two situations, as our team was in a shambolic state during that time. Players were coming and going all the time and there was simply no stability or unity within the team, which made Xavi's situation even more difficult. Now Thiago is surrounded by the best players in the world at the current. This alone with having the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Messi, Alves, Cesc, Alexis, Keita, Villa etc. around him will only make him better as he probably knows what it takes to become a starter at some point of his career.
What I am saying, is that we shouldn't judge the book by its cover just yet and wait for a few years to see whether he can really take us for a ride and whether he has what it takes to run our midfield alongside Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets and Cesc.
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Drunkmunky
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Agreed, Plip.
Myrmecophile
Mr. Japes
So Thiago isn't as intelligent on the pitch as the most intelligent player currently active?
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