Trincão

[BBZ8800]

Dembele's injuries are so far behind him, IQ has improved and mentally he is a different man.

He is good enough for Barca who will finish 3rd, 4th or 5th in La Liga.

CLs are not won win Dembeles.
Unless you have Messi and Ronaldinho around him.

In that sense, if Dembele will be our best attacker in the future, sad times are infront of us.

 

[BBZ8800]

Who remembers how bad Simao Sabrosa was for us, who years later turned into a great player.

After Barca he played for Benfica from the age of 22 to 28 and later played for Atletico who finished 4th, 4th, 9th and 7th during his years.

That's not Barca's CL winning level but Uefa cup, Arsenal, Roma, Sevilla, Valencia level.

So, if we buy a player and he ends as Uefa cup level of a player, I wouldn't call that a success, unless he wants to be an eternal sub like Rafinha.

 

[Porque]

After Barca he played for Benfica from the age of 22 to 28 and later played for Atletico who finished 4th, 4th, 9th and 7th during his years.

That's not Barca's CL winning level but Uefa cup, Arsenal, Roma, Sevilla, Valencia level.

So, if we buy a player and he ends as Uefa cup level of a player, I wouldn't call that a success, unless he wants to be an eternal sub like Rafinha.

But it depends if he is our key attacking player or our third wheel. As you said Dembele is good enough to be in our starting 11 but not be our key attacker. Just as Pedro and Giuly before.

But back to Trincao, the reference is only that we have to be patient with him. Players who turned world class such as De Bruyne, Salah and players who ended up very good such as Depay, Simao for us, all failed initially with moves too early in their careers to big clubs.

 

[BBZ8800]

But it depends if he is our key attacking player or our third wheel. As you said Dembele is good enough to be in our starting 11 but not be our key attacker. Just as Pedro and Giuly before.

I agree here.
Dembele and Trincao might be a good 3rd and 4th wheel.

But that means that we need two new superstar leaders in attack.
And since historically, 66% of all Barca's transfers don't reach expectations, maths says that we will probably need to sign 6 superstars to get 2 of them who fill fit perfectly.

So, we'll probably need 6 attackers worth 100+ millions, yet we are 1B in debth.

That leaves us with Dembeles and Trincaos as starters, which means 3rd place in La Liga for years.

 

[vegitot]

It might be true that most player are faster in their early 20s to their late 20s. But in Trincao's case i think it is different. He is not yet fully developed in term of physical. He maybe faster in his mid 20s to late 20s than he is now (21 years old). Same with player like Zidane. And he is not a pure winger like Dembele. As many people here already said, he is more of an attacking midfielder. Similiar to Figo. I don't think he can be as good as Figo though if everything clicks perfectly, he can be a very good player (like with Braga).

Well, if Dembele and Trincao could be players that can keep Barca in top 4 for years, that is good enough. We don't need 6 attackers worth 100 millions (you are overeacting). We need a balance squad then we can still win Liga or even UCL.

 

[Porque]

Man City have been breaking records with Sterling-Foden-Mahrez upfront. Ferran Torres has lost his spot after a bright spot.

Dembele, Trincao, Ansu. Things change fast in football. Who knows where each will be and for us in a season or two. Trincao may end up the best of them for all we know.

 

[vegitot]

Anyway what does complacency do to player's quality??? Yes, players like Ronaldo, Ibra...are cocky but many are humble. Even player BBZ mentioned above like Ronaldinho is also humble (he is confident but not cocky). What's about Rakitic, Modric??? They are not cocky at all.

 

[te amo barca]

He is good enough for Barca who will finish 3rd, 4th or 5th in La Liga.

CLs are not won win Dembeles.
Unless you have Messi and Ronaldinho around him.

In that sense, if Dembele will be our best attacker in the future, sad times are infront of us.

Klopp made Mane and Salah world-class players. If we bought any of them before they became superstars, you would be saying how they are good enough only for Europa League level teams. A lot depends on the coach, and Dembele/De Jong/Araujo/Pedri have improved massively in just 7 months. The development of players is not linear, a lot can change in one year. Just as you were saying how Fabinho and Goretzka were not good enough, but in a year they became world-class under Klopp and Flick.

 

[behindbrowneyes]

In that sense, if Dembele will be our best attacker in the future, sad times are infront of us.

Dembele has to improve his finishing. He is 23yo, but has lost 3 years of development, so basically he is just 20yo in terms of experience. We can see that he is developing, especially when it comes to tactical awareness, helping his full back with defending and losing the ball less often through unnecessary mistakes and lack of concentration.

We can say that Dembele is not a natural goalscorer though. He can improve this part of his game, but he'll never be a 20+ goals/season player on a regular basis (tbf wingers who regularly do are very rare). His best season in terms of scoring has been his first as a senior in France, 12 goals and 5 assists in 29 games for Stade Rennes. For Barcelona, he has scored 25 goals and 20 assists in 98 games, so basically he contributes to a goal in less than every second game.

Ansu, on the other hand, is showing way more traits of being a regular goalscorer one day. His finishing is very sharp already and he is also good at getting himself into goalscoring positions. Back to Dembele, we shouldn't reduce him to numbers. He is doing the team a favour by creating danger, tying defenders and therefore creating freedom for teammates. Also, he is good at carrying the ball forward.

I agree with you that Dembele can't be the best attacker in the future and you don't win a CL with him as leader. He doesn't need to be though. Everybody here will agree that we desperately need a new #9 and once we got one Dembele will become more efficient too.

With Trincao, we will see. It is too early to draw a conclusion. He can be a flop, but also become good as things stand of now. Also, he is young. Even if he turns out not good enough for Barca he still will have a decent resale value in summer of 2022.

 

[serghei]

I agree here.
Dembele and Trincao might be a good 3rd and 4th wheel.

But that means that we need two new superstar leaders in attack.
And since historically, 66% of all Barca's transfers don't reach expectations, maths says that we will probably need to sign 6 superstars to get 2 of them who fill fit perfectly.

So, we'll probably need 6 attackers worth 100+ millions, yet we are 1B in debth.

That leaves us with Dembeles and Trincaos as starters, which means 3rd place in La Liga for years.

You need just one. Haaland - Fati - Dembele is a CL winner worthy attack line in a few years. Almost no teams have 2 superstars in the attack.

 

[malvolio]

You need just one. Haaland - Fati - Dembele is a CL winner worthy attack line in a few years. Almost no teams have 2 superstars in the attack.

based on potential and hype around them, all three should be stars in the future.

we'll have to see how haaland does at a big club. we'll have to see how fati comes back after the injury. and dembele is a bit hit and miss, when he is not injured.

 

[Joan]

Dembele would show more if Barca could counter every now and then. Could be a useful player if he stays on track and keeos improving. Never a first violin, but no need for that.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

You need just one. Haaland - Fati - Dembele is a CL winner worthy attack line in a few years. Almost no teams have 2 superstars in the attack.

Agree, imo Haaland is already Cl level, Fati and Dembele are on a very good way. I just hope Dembele will reach the next level soon, then he will be one of the best, he has the potential.

 

[vegitot]

To be honest Dembele's full potential is just what he is now. The only thing is his consistency.

Don't expect he turn into Ronaldinho or something. Not only he is not that gifted but also his football IQ is not that high.

 

[te amo barca]

To be honest Dembele's full potential is just what he is now. The only thing is his consistency.

Don't expect he turn into Ronaldinho or something. Not only he is not that gifted but also his football IQ is not that high.

He is very gifted and could show much more. Agreed on a mediocre football IQ.