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serghei
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Xavi is neither awesome nor shit. He is a young, learning manager trying to succeed in this tough job, trying to figure out how to deal with the problems of the current football medium and how to make the club he loves work, even though the situation he and Barcelona both find themselves in is hard to fix. He is 100% Barcelonista and cares for the club far more than other so-called legends. You have to respect that even if you don't agree with his methods and choices.
In short terms, you have to fucking wait and don't look at current Barca as an easy entertainment source, to make life hardships pass on easier. The club is not at your service anymore. Like in the past, a bad day at work, tune in and see Pep Barca toy with the best sides like they're a pub team. It's over. You have to do a bit of toughening up and understand the club is past its best period and back to the nasty groundwork. You have to invest some sort of sacrifice in this club for the foreseeable future. The alternative is to pass on and attach yourself to merrier pastures.
Try to downsize the level of what is worthy of appreciation, to match the current reality. In the past, only winning the CL was seen as instant pleasure gratification, even La Liga wins were underappreciated as casual feats. Now, even seeing Pedri and Gavi progress to becoming top-class players has to be seen as a great success for the next 1-2 years at least. As well as Balde, Araujo, seeing De Jong own the DM position, plenty to draw satisfaction for without being an elite team per se.
In short terms, you have to fucking wait and don't look at current Barca as an easy entertainment source, to make life hardships pass on easier. The club is not at your service anymore. Like in the past, a bad day at work, tune in and see Pep Barca toy with the best sides like they're a pub team. It's over. You have to do a bit of toughening up and understand the club is past its best period and back to the nasty groundwork. You have to invest some sort of sacrifice in this club for the foreseeable future. The alternative is to pass on and attach yourself to merrier pastures.
Try to downsize the level of what is worthy of appreciation, to match the current reality. In the past, only winning the CL was seen as instant pleasure gratification, even La Liga wins were underappreciated as casual feats. Now, even seeing Pedri and Gavi progress to becoming top-class players has to be seen as a great success for the next 1-2 years at least. As well as Balde, Araujo, seeing De Jong own the DM position, plenty to draw satisfaction for without being an elite team per se.
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serghei
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Not that poor in UCL. Expected with the injuries and referee robberies to have a tough duel with this Inter. Remember, Inter was playing CL knockouts while we were playing Galatasaray in the EL last season. Yes we made transfers, but most of the new players were injured vs Inter, including all defensive signings.
Even then, with decent refereeing we probably end up with 2 draws vs Inter, with injuries and all.
It's mostly bad luck. Of course, bad luck was matched by our mediocre showing, but having Pique and Garcia as the only fit CBs is a terrible situation.
Even then, with decent refereeing we probably end up with 2 draws vs Inter, with injuries and all.
It's mostly bad luck. Of course, bad luck was matched by our mediocre showing, but having Pique and Garcia as the only fit CBs is a terrible situation.
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serghei
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No doubt. Pique was Inter's best player on Camp Nou. We did score 3 goals against their parked bus, the problem was the shit defense.
Garcia and Pique are like 4th and 5th CB options after Kounde, Araujo and Christensen. I bet if Lenglet was still here he'd play before this Pique.
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malvolio
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Getting dumped from CL group is poor and the minimum objective. It's a group format so refereeing decisions can't be used as an excuse. We spent a lot of money in the summer and Xavi more or less got what he wanted.
I feel you're trying to present current Barca as a poor club, who needs time to rebuild. Real wins trophies during rebuilds and we can't even get past CL group? I'm not buying it.
If his name wasn't Xavi he would be sacked right now. But tbf, it is not yet official. He can still be sacked after groups are done and Inter beats Plzen at home.
serghei
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Yes, it is poor if you don't look at context. If you add context, which you should to make a decent take on it, the situation changes a lot.
No chance he would be sacked. The squad is not good enough if some players get injured all at the same time and all in the same area. You need Pique kicked out (hard to do since he has contract) and possibly Garcia too. The problem was the 3 injuries of our 3 best defenders by a mile all at once.
We need one top CB signing. Araujo and Christensen appear to be injury prone. Both of them are out injured every season.
We are NOT in the same situation as Madrid. Their veterans are still some of the best players in the world in their positions, and one of them won the BD. Our veterans are mediocre to shit by comparison. Only veteran we have that is Madrid level is new signing Lewandowski.
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malvolio
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Depends what you want to see. I repeat, this is a group format so no one-off game or a KO tie where the slightest detail matters and you get dumped but being unlucky.
We had a full defense against Bayern away, didn't we? We also didn't score shit in away games. Sorry, but can't get by just on defense alone when your attack doesn't score. You want to qualify by parking the bus and just getting draws?
This isn't even a good Inter side FFS.
serghei
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But Bayern away is a better team than us. And we played well, and even dominated them badlyn in the first half. Beating current Bayern away in like 2-3 months into a rebuild would've been a massive statement. Didn't happen, hardly the end of the world, mostly expected.
serghei
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Yes I did, you just weren't paying attention. Was a bit harsh on EV, but certainly not a great manager, just a bit better than I gave him credit for.
malvolio
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Nobody expected us to win away at Bayern. But not even scoring once? Not scoring vs Inter away? Not killing Inter at home when we could have had 3-4 in the first half?
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You did that in retrospect though. Not during his tenure. Afterwards you realized you were wrong about him.
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