Xavi Hernández

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serghei

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Tuchel, Ten Haag, Pochetiino

XAVI haters have officially lost it,.

Like the great Jnr Soprano once said. "Some people are so far behind in the race that they actually believe that they're leading."

Dogs bark, but the caravan moves on. :lol:

Champions of Spain.
 

JamDav1982

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Being reported that he indeed did congratulate the dressing room for how they played v Real for an hour and told them to be happy with performance.

Makes Gundos words a bit more clear if that is the case.

Lack of awareness of what went wrong and mistakes made if that is how he really thinks after that game.

Biggest plus for me from Saturday was the way he set up the defence. Looked very balanced and set up well for playing top teams.

The back four had little to do at all with the goals conceded.
 

Barcaman

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Being reported that he indeed did congratulate the dressing room for how they played v Real for an hour and told them to be happy with performance.

Makes Gundos words a bit more clear if that is the case.

Lack of awareness of what went wrong and mistakes made if that is how he really thinks after that game.

Biggest plus for me from Saturday was the way he set up the defence. Looked very balanced and set up well for playing top teams.

The back four had little to do at all with the goals conceded.

Where are the captains? Ter Stegen doesn't seem bothered with anything.
Can you imagine this kind of defeatism with Puyol as captain?
 

JamDav1982

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Where are the captains? Ter Stegen doesn't seem bothered with anything.
Can you imagine this kind of defeatism with Puyol as captain?

To be fair to MATS he used to be described as one of the most vocal and would be one of few that would even go at Messi/Suarez if not pulling weight.

Its why they didnt really get on supposedly.

Players can be vocal but the coach has the final word and leads the culture.

To be fir to Xavi he is probably also trying to keep balance and heads up but there are many mistakes being repeated that makes it look like little accountability at times.
 

iniestaGOAT

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To be fair to MATS he used to be described as one of the most vocal and would be one of few that would even go at Messi/Suarez if not pulling weight.

Its why they didnt really get on supposedly.

Players can be vocal but the coach has the final word and leads the culture.

To be fir to Xavi he is probably also trying to keep balance and heads up but there are many mistakes being repeated that makes it look like little accountability at times.

They didn't get on cause it was Messi/Suarez calling him out for being shit. Straight ass.

That's when we should have got rid of ter statue.

The GOAT knows ball
 

Horatio

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Was about to say what iniestagoat said. I know Messi and Ter Stegen had their differences but the reason for it but no sources ever provided as to what that was about.

But jams has insider friend in EPL so maybe from there?
 

DonAK

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ter Stegen being one to call out others for not pulling their weight is hilarious considering his shit European performances when Messi was still at the club lol.

Marc might be too mentally scarred by all the losses to lead anything anyway.

Gundogan is the only natural leader in the team, hopefully Araujo can develop into one.
 

malvolio

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Alemano never comes out for crosses. Imagine Messi and Suarez laughing about Stegen while doing one of their weekly asados.
 

JamDav1982

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They didn't get on cause it was Messi/Suarez calling him out for being shit. Straight ass.

That's when we should have got rid of ter statue.

The GOAT knows ball

Nah he challenged them and they didnt like it.

Plenty worse players than MATS who didnt get same reaction.

They were shit themselves in plenty of the biggest games anyway in that time.
 

JamDav1982

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ter Stegen being one to call out others for not pulling their weight is hilarious considering his shit European performances when Messi was still at the club lol.

Marc might be too mentally scarred by all the losses to lead anything anyway.

Gundogan is the only natural leader in the team, hopefully Araujo can develop into one.

All of them had shit performances in latter stages too often or v Real etc.. Messi had one good game in last 3/4 years v Real is the reality and vanished in many big games to point he looked like gave up.

MATS was also the best GK in the world during at times when played with Messi/Suarez and was one of few who would call them out and they couldnt take it.

All players need to get called out and Messi/Suarez were not good leaders in last few years either.
 

BusiTheKing

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I gotta agree with JamDav on this one. Whether Ter Stegen performed well or not isn't the issue. He was calling people out for slacking off, not making mistakes.

The dominant mood of the team in those years was sluggish, spiritless and resigned and even though the football was more refined, I'd honestly rather take what we have today.
 

Gaudi

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A good illustration of what we're missing is to look at City's second goal from today, consider the elements involved, and ask what we would have done in the same situations: https://dubz.live/c/d4f7b2

1. Walker's first touch central pass to Rodri. We definitely would not have made that pass. An average, expected action in our team would be a touch to control, a look at the central option while it disappears, a few touches more and a safe, open pass, likely backwards or to the side.

2. Another first touch forward pass by Rodri, advancing the play out to Alvarez. We definitely wouldn't have made that one either.

3. Alvarez takes two touches and shifts it diagonally out to Grealish. Would like to believe that we'd have made this but can't be sure.

4. As soon as Grealish gets it and begins cutting in, Silva makes a 30 meter run to overlap. Wouldn't have happened in a million years for us.

5. Nice cross and a goal. Not much to say there, just sensible execution.

A goal consists of a chain of positive actions. Our chain would have broken three times.

None of these actions are that complicated or require great individual ability. They require focus, courage and collective understanding of how to add tempo, build momentum and put pressure on the opponent. This is what is needed to play top football.
I think most important difference here is bodies in the box, City attacked the box in full force, we would have Lew inside alone. Movement without the ball is the most important thing in football
 

serghei

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ter Stegen being one to call out others for not pulling their weight is hilarious considering his shit European performances when Messi was still at the club lol.

Marc might be too mentally scarred by all the losses to lead anything anyway.

Gundogan is the only natural leader in the team, hopefully Araujo can develop into one.

If we had a top keeper instead of this guy in the last 10 years the club would have at least one more CL.

For me, he is always gonna be a 2nd rate keeper.

Didn't like Valdes either. This club has been plagued by substandard keepers. Even when the club had a top 3 team, the keeper dragged us back many times.

Basically the oppposite of Madrid. Navas and Courtois have constantly been one of the biggest contributors to their CL titles.
 

JamDav1982

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Nah he has been amongst best in world in time at Barca and had dips like every keeper going.

Thankfully Xavi didnt dump him for likes of Neto at any point as some wanted.

Fair list of names that used to be put up as better as well....
 
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