Xavi Hernández

[DonAK]

Whole situation had become toxic as fuck and am starting to think Xavi will probably resign soon.

This is a major downside of consistently hiring ex legend as managers, when it goes wrong, you end up souring a relationship with someone who did so much for the club.

He's been poor this season no doubt it's just sad that there is so much toxicity around him, whether deserved or not. Koeman got the same and even got his car attacked. A car with a personalised number plate with ' BAR' on it.

At least if we get an outsider as manager we can fuck him off without feeling guilty about it. This tawdry affair must bring a tinge of sadness to any proud cule.

Toxicity from where though? He still has the overwhelming support from the local press. Fanbase might be divided locally and internationally, but no one is attacking him directly.

You have a point, but his status as an ex-legend is probably also why the media are reluctant to criticize him like they would with someone else.

I don't think Xavi resigns in the middle of the season unless we see a full collapse ending up with not making it through the group stages in the CL which is unlikely, but could happen if we lose vs. Porto and don't win vs. Antwerp.

 

[Porque]

The media are just rightly pointing out that the results havrnt been good and the performances havent built ant excuse that there is a process to support inspite of them.

Nothing toxic in that. It's just reality.

Now if we lose against Porto then things could get hairy. It's going to be a cold late kickoff in Montjuic so I can't imagine home support will be there. Thought about going myself but thought "fuck it" not torturing myself for some Xaviball.

 

[JamDav1982]

It is all excuses and Xavi has been part of any 'toxicity' in the past when commenting on way Barc 'has obligation' to play and type of players the club need.

Now in the hot seat... he doesnt stick to anything he said in past and moans when others have those same expectations.

Not surprising now that he used to declare love for likes of Seri... doesnt have a great eye for a Barca player in a Barca style so far.

 

[serghei]

Not that hard to understand. Xavi won a big title last season, so he has plenty of credit for 1-2 years.

That's perfectly normal. A title win is a great achievement. Of course, he still has to improve this season, as credit doesn't last forever.

If this season the team doesn't win anything, then most likely the pressure next season is gonna be very high for Xavi and the team to deliver titles again. From the press, the fans, Laporta, you name it.

That's how it usually works at a tier 1 club. If you tie together 2 bad seasons in a row, you find yourself another job.

But it's still early. The team is not out of it yet. A lot can happen in the next months.

 

[Rory]

Winning the league only buys you 2 years if you don’t get kicked out of both European competitions at the first hurdle. He has this season alone. Copa doesn’t mean much but losing 4-0 at home to our eternal rivals only adds to that European shitshow

 

[JamDav1982]

Winning the league only buys you 2 years if you don’t get kicked out of both European competitions at the first hurdle. He has this season alone. Copa doesn’t mean much but losing 4-0 at home to our eternal rivals only adds to that European shitshow

There has never been a Barca coach in recent years given 'two years' because won a title.

Barca coaches pretty much get punted in first bad season and even more so pressure when coaches cant get them to play in way Barca expect.

Xavi has been forgiven a lot of these pressures to date.

As said already he needs to settle on a formation and a style and one that gets most from players.

Not the shite he has been serving up recently where looks clueless as to how to approach game and how to get best out of players.

His excuses probably dont help either and comments from Gundo about lack of anger in dressing room when lose all lead to lack of accountability if continues.

 

[serghei]

Winning the league only buys you 2 years if you don’t get kicked out of both European competitions at the first hurdle. He has this season alone. Copa doesn’t mean much but losing 4-0 at home to our eternal rivals only adds to that European shitshow

He seems to be doing better this season in CL. Close to securing 1st place in the group.

 

[JamDav1982]

He seems to be doing better this season in CL. Close to 1st place in the groups.

It would be a monumental failure not win this group and 'doing better' than getting pumped out of Europe twice in few months is no huge claim either.

They need to win that group and get past last 16 as a minimum then take it from there.

 

[serghei]

If you consider that half the European teams from mighty EPL could be out in the groups in CL...

La Liga could have 4.

 

[JamDav1982]

It is not about 'doing better' than a year when failed spectacularly.

Can do better than last year and still have a failure of season when not good enough.

What EPL teams do is irrelevant to Xavi unless beats them.

 

[serghei]

True, the season could still be a failure based on poor league results even if the team gets knocked out in CL quarters for instance. Last season was a success though. Let's keep that in mind.

 

[JamDav1982]

True, the season could still be a failure based on poor league results. Last season was a success though. Let's keep that in mind.

Indeed as you were told about last season when tried to say won it as Real didnt try as hard.

This season is judged on its own merits as is the case with every Barca coach on every season.

Xavi needs to find settled ideas and team soon and stop his pish of over rating certain players and constantly playing others out of position.

He currntly appears clueless and scrambling in the dark.

 

[serghei]

Indeed as you were told about last season when tried to say won it as Real didnt try as hard.

This season is judged on its own merits as is the case with every Barca coach.

True, but you don't sack the manager at the first poor season after the manager already proved he can win big titles, even if it happens. That's the point. Klopp even survived a 5th place finish, that is truly horrible season.

 

[JamDav1982]

True, but you don't sack the manager at the first poor season, even if it happens. That's the point.

No that is what happens at likes of Barca if go out early in Europe and have poor league season when team look rudderless.

Even only one of the two is enough a lot of the time.

 

[serghei]

No that is what happens at likes of Barca if go out early in Europe and have poor league season when team look rudderless.

Even only one of the two is enough a lot of the time.

Gonna be fun hiring a new manager then. Bring at least a La Liga title every season, or you're done.