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Gari

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Official Al Sadd statement: "In response to what has been circulating lately, Al Sadd reiterate that Xavi has a two-year contract and he is fully focused on the next matches."

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In response to what’s circulating recently, the #AlSadd management reaffirms that Xavi has a two-year contract with the club and is fully focused on the team’s upcoming matches, to maintain our lead at the top of the league and to defend the title.
 
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El Gato

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Official Al Sadd statement: "In response to what has been circulating lately, Al Sadd reiterate that Xavi has a two-year contract and he is fully focused on the next matches."

Haha
I want to see Laporta face if they refuse to release him and you get stuck with Barjuan for a season
 

FinBarcelonafan

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People seem to have this notion that this sterile sideways slow ass type of possession based football we have played for a while now = what Pep, Cruyff and others like that see/saw as their ideal

Which just isn't true.

Say what you want about Pep, but he would go crazy and probably chuck a shoe at someone SAF to Beckham style if his team played at a snail's pace and couldn't break through anything unless it was down to individual brilliance.

Truth. Compare City and past few years Barca and it's like night and day.
 

Birdy

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I have a question that seems a bit off topic, but what does qualify as a principle? what does qualify as roots of certain way or ideology/DNA in football?
Those terms are used in very flexible ways during argument.
Is Pep way and Crujif way the same principles? Is Lucho a Barca DNA? Naggelsman? Tuchel? Bielsa?

If I may answer this using my professional knowledge,
IN GENERAL (not in football in particular, but it applies to everything that has principles) a principle is a proposition standing at a very high level of abstraction.
The more abstract the proposition, the more close to that being a 'principle'.
The more concrete, and tied to specifics, it is, the further it drifts away from being 'a principle'.

A principle is always foundational: It acts as the base of other -less abstract- principles, derived by it when it becomes concretized.
Which other principles, in turn, can become concretized themselves in less abstract propositions, until you reach a threshold where you don't even talk about principles, as you don't have sufficient abstraction in them.

Some examples from a non-football domain:
"The essence of man is his moral being" -> that's a principle at the highest level of abstraction you can get.
"Honesty is the highest virtue of morality"-> that's a principle at a lesser level of abstraction compared to the above.
"Telling the truth, even when unpleasant, is an act of honesty" -> Likewise, here there is a even less abstraction. This one is questionable if it is principle, it's a borderline case. I would call it a maxim.
"If you have second thoughts on an issue, disclose them"-> that's not even a principle. It does not have the sufficient level of abstraction to be one. IT's a practical rule of conduct.

Some examples in football now:
"Having the ball most of the time is a value in football" -> That's a principle at a very high level of abstraction
"A team should have its players expand the pitch to keep possession" -> Principle at a lower level of abstraction than above
"To expand the pitch in possession, you need the wingers to not drift centrally" -> Likewise, one step below in abstraction
"A team should play 4-3-3 to have wingers stay out wide" -> Even less abstraction here. That's a borderline case, IMO it's more a maxim than a principle.
"The current Barca should play 4-3-3 to keep possession the most" -> That's not a principle at all.
It's a current directive stemming from principles standing at a higher level of abstraction, when applied to a very specific setting.

What I should note, is that stepping down a level of abstraction every time, is neither simple nor straight-forward,
and that's quite crucial...

PS: Lastly, about ideology in football,
I would say it's a collection of principles that form a coherent whole all together.
 

Gnidrologist

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My only concern about him is defense. If he tries to play the gung-ho-kung-fu style he's used to in the arabistan, he'll get a reality check really quick, even against la liga bottom feeders. Not only because of our crappy personnel. Otherwise i believe he will certainly manage to make Barca look more like a team, not just a bunch of clueless individuals, which is what we had with the Cow.
Is he really coming?
 
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