Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[badboybjörn]

PARIS. "I had also made 90 goals for the judges gave us penalties as they do with Barcelona."
Zlatan quote spread like wildfire on social media and websites - but was just invented.
- I was just joking on Twitter, I had no idea it would get feet, says l'Équipe journalist Salim Baungally.
A few weeks ago, several major Spanish newspapers that Zlatan Ibrahimovic should have spoken out about FC Barcelona as "a mediocre team with mediocre players."
The data appeared to come from a home in Honduras, without citation, and was by all accounts just fictional.
This weekend it was time again.
Salim Baungally, a journalist for L'Equipe TV, wrote on the occasion of Leo Messi's goal record last Sunday on Twitter: "I would also have made 90 goals if the judges gave me penalties as they do with Barcelona" and tagged with Zlatan Ibrahimovic post name.
"Thought it was obvious"
The problem was that Baungallys tweet was a joke.
- I thought it was obvious that I was joking, I was stunned when colleagues began to get in touch and tell me that my information was reproduced on sites in Spain, says Baungally to Sportbladet.
- I wrote a clarifying tweet as soon as I understood the situation that it was a joke, but then it was already out and had feet, says Salim Baungally.


translated from sportbladet.. Again just some reporter who wanted some attention i guess.

 

[Trillske]

But what can possibly be the ground for this "qualitative judgement" of yours? Surely it must be mainly quantitative.

Given some extremely complicated equation, maybe it could be described quantitatively.
For example: I believe Barcelona was a superior team to Chelsea last year. What got me to that conclusion? Well I dont know.. a lot?
What I am proposing is that making a qualitative judgement like that is superior to following some simple quantitative measure. And that the later serves better as some check for bias; if Barcelona starts to lose an unreasonable number of games, I might start to second guess my evalutation.

Whenever we need to collectively agree on something - like regarding the rules for the coefficient - there is not much choice. But when we dont, I believe a simple quantitative approach is both inneffective and unnecessary (given we are watching the games ourselves, it is just throwing information away*).

But yeah, by now im sliding off topic, more towards that ideological view.

As for the sample size, im still sceptical, but you have a point. It is a lot more games than I have thought about.

*

Spoiler: OT drivel

From what I understand a lot of people take the idea of noise too far; suddenly afraid of anything not extremely simplified (like fotball simplified to wins/losses) and given a huge sample. I obviously agree about the "huge sample" part, but not about the simplification. There is an extreme amount of potential measures adding up to huge samples very quickly, and while I dont know how to get those all down on paper, in my world it makes perfect sense to process that information individually, all at once. I believe it is not only easy, I think it is even hard to avoid.

Again just some reporter who wanted some attention i guess.

The new world is too obvious, I liked it better when we coudnt be sure people are asshats.

 

[messi_xavi_iniesta]

You really shouldn't believe everything you read.

Everyone believed. It was news everywhere. And Ibra insulted barça and guardiola befora so i would´t be surprised.
But it was just a piece of shit jornalist.

 

[Trillske]

Ibra insulted barça

No, this is not true, and not "everyone" would fall for something like this. You are a very select group.

And newspapers dont "fall" for stuff. Actually, generally newspapers dont even "learn" stuff, thats not what they set out to do; it is not about information. They report what they believe people will read. If they have a source to blame afterwards, they go right ahead. A quote like this is golden to generate readers, and they have an explicit source to blame afterwards. Whether they believe it or not is completely irrelevant.

 

[Furia]

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[Malappapper]

Already scored 3 against Valnciennes away. Wow!

 

[Stric]

I'd be surprised if he wasn't completely demolishing most opponents in the French league.

 

[Malappapper]

I don't think that the French league is that weak. It's a bit worse than Serie A and La Liga, OK maybe a bit more than a bit, but still. I think he is doing exceptionally well.

 

[Stric]

I'm just saying, he's one of the best forwards and goalscorers in the world, it'd be strange if he was performing worse than he had performed in stronger leagues.

 

[Doobs]

Just thought id throw this in here

 

[Het_fenomeen_Messi]

I don't think that the French league is that weak. It's a bit worse than Serie A and La Liga, OK maybe a bit more than a bit, but still. I think he is doing exceptionally well.

PSG: best players of the french league. French league = below standard. (btw 3 tap in goals today)
Imagine Messi in the French league

 

[messi_xavi_iniesta]

In CL against Fc Porto he did nothing in both games. French league is getting worse every year.

 

[Malappapper]

In CL against Fc Porto he did nothing in both games. French league is getting worse every year.

Where do you base this claim, namely that the French league is worse every year?

 

[badboybjörn]

Psg looked pretty good today more of a team than a one man army as they often looked this season. Last 2 games they have shown they got some nice potential.
Nice to c ibra score some easy tap ins for a change. Usually one thing he rarely does enough of.

 

[badboybjörn]

PSG: best players of the french league. French league = below standard. (btw 3 tap in goals today)
Imagine Messi in the French league

Id think messi would score less in psg than in barca tbh. Its pretty impressive by ibra to just adjust to new teams as good as he does.
Id love to c messi in another league or team once he is ready to write another chapter. I think its one of the things he still need to do and do well for me to think he is the words best ever.