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Bundesliga > La Liga > EPL > Serie A > Liga Portuguesa > Ligue 1 > Eredivisie
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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I'd rank them:
Bundesliga > La Liga > EPL > Serie A > Liga Portuguesa > Ligue 1 > Eredivisie
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I don't think any league is particularly that strong at the moment, all of them have there plus & minuses, i think the big four of Premiership, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga are very close to each other in terms of strongest.
BarcaVillain
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I'd agree with that.
TornAndFrayed
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I find the UEFA rankings to be pretty accurate (based on european competition results for past 5 years)
la liga just got ahead of the EPL thanks to CL and Europa results. the Bundesliga is right behind and will relegate EPL to third by next year, since english clubs have been poor in Europa and inconsistent in the CL.
There's a not-so-small gap between those leagues and Serie A, which is spiralling down dangerously close to Ligue 1 and Primeira liga.
the trends are: EPL declining, german and spanish football on the rise, then Serie A is somewhat declining, Ligue 1 is stable while Primeira is somewhat inconsistent.
the french league is boring as sh*t while also very tactical. Serie A is very tactical too and only a little more fun to watch imo
the EPL is still the most competitive heavily disputed championship, a good reason it remains very popular.
la liga just got ahead of the EPL thanks to CL and Europa results. the Bundesliga is right behind and will relegate EPL to third by next year, since english clubs have been poor in Europa and inconsistent in the CL.
There's a not-so-small gap between those leagues and Serie A, which is spiralling down dangerously close to Ligue 1 and Primeira liga.
the trends are: EPL declining, german and spanish football on the rise, then Serie A is somewhat declining, Ligue 1 is stable while Primeira is somewhat inconsistent.
the french league is boring as sh*t while also very tactical. Serie A is very tactical too and only a little more fun to watch imo
the EPL is still the most competitive heavily disputed championship, a good reason it remains very popular.
Again, more noise than anything. Malaga is probably a much, much worse team than PSG. Their performance right now is still impressive, but I see no reason yet to call them a top team.
(of course everyone have their opinion, but I think Malaga woudnt have much of a chance in ligue 1)
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Malappapper
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The UEFA rankings are not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. But they are the only objective way of comparing the relative strength of the European leagues. It is a broad and wide measure, and it just deals with results. We quite often hear, especially from EPL and Serie A fans, that their awesome teams do not take the poor Europa League very seriously. That is only partly true. Especially this season, both the Italian and English Clubs fielded extremely strong sides in the EL. It was in fact Alteti and even Levante that left players out of the EL games, especially Atleti who have not as yet used Falcao once in the EL this season.
The astonishing power of the EPL sides during the period of 2006-9 now seems to have seriously faded, but their financial position is so superior to the rest of Europe (and it will only grow even stronger, if one takes a look at the new TV rights deal that the EPL has agreed, and also the massive sponsorship deals that the English clubs can get) that it cannot be but a matter of time before the English league rises to the top again.
The German league has a stable financial base, but due to the absence of a global audience it seriously lags the financial colossus that is the EPL. To be certain, the German league to a large extent counter-balances its financial inferiority vis-a-vis the EPL, through significantly superior local talent. How long can this withstand the black hole that is the capitalist marketplace is really difficult to tell.
La Liga is am afraid on cusp of a massive precipice. It is a testament to the awesomeness of Spanish football that despite its severe economic handicap, La Liga still manages to lord it over the continent. But as we can readily observe, it is only a matter of time before La Liga is depleted of its talent pool. The economic situation in Spain is bound to get a lot worse before it gets better, and this will ultimately undermine even Real and Barca. If some external factor can intervene here to save the day I don't know (Carlos Slim, Russian, Arab or Chinese plutocrats) but things look very bleak indeed for the most potent footballing nation of the last 2 decades or so.
Serie A seems to have stagnated on a lower plateau compared with the other Top European Leagues, but it still maintains some pretty high quality as Juve showed us. I don't think the prospects are very good for Serie A either mainly due to economic developments, but unlike Spain, Italy does not seem to be able to produce the talent that it used to.
My prediction for the next five years or so:
1. EPL: Massive financial power through TV deals, generous sponsors, foreign sugar daddies and packed stadia.
2. Bundesliga: Stable financial base, high quality local talent.
3. La Liga: The epicentre of world football for the time being, but unfortunately without cash.
4. Serie A: Gently declining former superpower.
As for La Liga,
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Malappapper
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That is far from certain. Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle may do very well in the EL, and gather lots of points for the EPL. But then OK, you also have Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Hannover and Monchndgladbach doing their bit for Germany.
La Liga will suffer in the EL this season, Atleti are giving everything in the league (I don't know if this will change come the KO rounds) and Levante do not have the ressources or the power to go deep in the EL, unless something exceptional happens.
For the Spanish ranking to do well in 2012/13, Madrid and Barca must reap it in the CL this season (likely) and also maybe Malaga and Valencia (unlikely)
Daemul
previously known as Jonathan28
I can see Spurs and Chelsea going far, Newcastle and Liverpool will bottle it. Madrdi and Barca will get the bulk of the points for La Liga, though Pathetico may win the EL again, we'll have to wait and see.
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Malappapper
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I see Liverpool and Chelsea doing well, but who knows with KO competitions, no?
footyfan
Calma, calma
Just dont misstake noise for signal. Short term results (one or a few CL) is more noise than information.
Actually a valid lesson for most things in life, and one that almost everyone got the wrong idea about 2012. So transfer and extrapolate and youre a few steps ahead.
UEFA co-efficients are hardly short term. They always look at performances over the past 5 years. IMO that seems reasonable. Going over 5 years may affect rankings due to irrelevant situations that occurred a long time ago while going below may produce rankings that owe more to noise than signal as you mention.
The biggest problem with the coefficient is not teams not giving a sh-t about EL, its that its short sighted, acts to quickly on random luck. Much like the English. As someone said though, its better than nothing.
I think its funny that this generation of Barcelona, even though they have been so completely dominant (rarely do so many people agree one side is the best), the times that they have won the CL they have been very lucky to do so. A slight change of margins and that would be it.
Both CL and EL are "a couple of games here and there". It takes a long, long time to get a good sample out of that.
As someone said though, its better than nothing.I think its funny that this generation of Barcelona, even though they have been so completely dominant (rarely do so many people agree one side is the best), the times that they have won the CL they have been very lucky to do so. A slight change of margins and that would be it.
To me that is still short term. But I agree that it cant be done a better way (that I know about atleast), because as you say, if you go longer than that suddenly you have a new generation of squads.
Both CL and EL are "a couple of games here and there". It takes a long, long time to get a good sample out of that.
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Malappapper
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The biggest problem with the coefficient is not teams not giving a sh-t about EL, its that its short sighted, acts to quickly on random luck. Much like the English.
I think its funny that this generation of Barcelona, even though they have been so completely dominant (rarely do so many people agree one side is the best), the times that they have won the CL they have been very lucky to do so. A slight change of margins and that would be it.
To me that is still short term. But I agree that it cant be done a better way (that I know about atleast), because as you say, if you go longer than that suddenly you have a new generation of squads.
Both CL and EL are "a couple of games here and there". It takes a long, long time to get a good sample out of that.
5 years is short-term in macroeconomics and history, in football is quite, quite long-term. Just because the impartial rankings don't support your ideological point of view, it does not follow that they are a poor indicator.
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