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Did you not see the quickness to steal the ball leading to the penalty? He was trying, not CL final trying but trying.

How was he supposed to do anything about the third either? it was directly into the top corner with a curl to boot.

Was that 35 mill in total or 35 mill a year? If its the latter he must REALLY love barca :lol:

Yeah recently only Rakitic and Suarez have been great in their first seasons and both started off like crap.

Pep's Bayern is not in the same league as 08-12 Barca when it comes to quality of players. Arguably the best midfield of all time, one of the greatest modern defense systems (Im not gonna compare it to older defenses) and aside from Messi we had Eto'o , Henry, Ibra (All time great strikers) AND...

If Messi was on rm they probably wouldn't have Ronaldo (Hell we might have Ronaldo :lol: ) And without the golden core I doubt Messi would be able to will RM to the amount of titles Barca won. Especially since we know how dominant Barca 08-12 was without Messi (Spain essentially). We probably...

Also its not like he hasnt showed that he can play in midfield. He's just not better than Iniesta/Rakitic atm. He'll probably get chances in mid for Barca and moreso Spain so I dont think he's worried.

its weird to see BBZ8800 defending a young player :lol: But like he said only time will tell he certainly seems to have the talent.

What position did he play?

I think he'll still get game time if he stays, MSN needs to be rested especially in the first half of the season, they've all been involved in international cups and what not.

I don't see a lose in speed, I see a lose in frequency of use of that speed. If he actually tries to run he seems the same (Remember Messi never had extreme sustained speed like Ronaldo or Bale but just insane acceleration).

Of course it'd probably help, but I compare him to Shaquille O'Neil, dude never practiced that hard(look at his free throws) but he was just so good that it didnt matter would you rather have a hard worker ala pedro or Messi? If it were possible that would be great but im not gonna stress out...

Cause he's messi :lol: I don't know why this argument always ends up coming up like we havent won multiple trebles with him not being a defensive workhorse, its been what? 8 years since he's taken on the no 10? Time to let it go.

:lol: Come back and try defending Arda with Iniesta when he scores a wc winning goal and gets MoM awards in multiple finals. That being said I don't think he was that bad.

Adama was such a sad case, literally all the physical tools to become a star. Guess it just goes to show how football IQ is extremely important. Hopefully Lee is able to make it.

Young stars in the making seem to do well in germany (looking at schurle,half of dortmund,draxler) 10m for a young star if he does in fact blossom is nothing honestly.

I wouldnt mind to have him back. Alcantara bros in midfield :D only thing is if its anything over 40-50 mill you can forget it. Sell Turan to help finance it.

Messi plays well after disappointing seasons imo. He'll be back to 2015 level probably(imo thats his peak, he's been as good but not better).

As we saw with Roberto, if Samper shows enough ability to get playing time Lucho will allow him to improve and move him into positions where his skills will be useful. He may start at cdm but if he shoes enough playmaking he'll definitely get time at cm.

Ronaldo is also a sex symbol same reason Beckham was so popular in the US, the fact that Messi is very well known in the US is a testament to his brilliance on the football pitch.