1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

SeloBarca

Senior Member
Looked really nervous and didnt dare to go out to intercept the crosses.
Needs more experiance and should play most LaLiga games to get that.
Bravo is not a goalkeeper for the future, and Mats have much more talent.
 

Zangash

Banned
That doesn't take away the fact that he was bad tonight...

He was only poor on the cross, which, honestly, should have never been on target in the first place if we had an actual defense. Even in VV's last season here when he was in complete beast mode he constantly went into no-man's land the way Mats did, but the difference is we often managed to get the ball clear, as opposed to letting a player who's a midget by even our standards get his head on the ball.

The first goal was not his fault by any means. Mascherano is not a CB and playing him there may work against the Elches and the Malagas, but it won't work against tough opposition. Put Pique or Bartra or Vermaelen or Pique or Mathieu, which is literally every CB we have who could have been in that position instead, in that position, and that shot doesn't even take place.

The third goal was, also, down to absurd Barca defending. Of course, it seemed like most of our back line had shut down by then, but ter Stegen could have possibly tried coming out for it, but had he have done that and missed it would have been an even larger mistake. Why the ball was allowed to be crossed in and finished with absolutely zero pressure is what needs to be addressed, not ter Stegen's ability to close his legs when he slides.

Of our entire defense I would say ter Stegen was second best, behind Mathieu. Any blame for this loss should fall on the line that's supposed to be protecting him.
 

spark

New member
Agreed, Bravo has been solid but he's not the super cool and young Ter Stegen so he gets treated like dirt.

Its opinions on a forum. If anyone was actually treated like dirt its ter stegen who played his second ever Barca game away to PSG after 13 games without a match.
 

barcanuck

New member
Didn't get any help from Lucho today playing 3 short guys at the back. Should of done better but we'll give him a mulligan it was only his 2nd game.
 

Pepe Silvia

Active member
Makes no sense to start a player with no match fitness in a very important match. Bravo is the starter until he no longer deserves it, and as a professional athlete ted Stegen must understand that it was only by an injury that kept him out of the starting lineup. It's no hard feelings to anyone really.
Ridiculous that LE played him.
 

Cruijffista

SOY ANTIMADRIDISTA
Looked out of his depth and very green out there today but I place the blame on Lucho for this performance as he shouldn't have been out there in the first place. He will either have to get the bulk of the minutes in La Liga or Bravo will be the starter for this season and let Ter Stegen acclimate to a new culture playing against lower-table opposition in La Liga when Bravo needs a rest.
 

Antimadridista1

New member
I'm sorry but I don't understand what is wrong with Lucho. Starting Douglas against Malaga and now Mats against PSG, what the fucking hell is wrong with him ?
Start the new young players at home, not away for their first match.
 

Blaugrana Bull

HiiiPoWeR
As I said at the beginning of the season and in the match thread today it is stupid to play one keeper in the league and one in CL.
MAtS got injured, Bravo took his chance and is solid so far. So let him play and stop rotating them.
 
F

Flavia

Guest
As I said at the beginning of the season and in the match thread today it is stupid to play one keeper in the league and one in CL.
MAtS got injured, Bravo took his chance and is solid so far. So let him play and stop rotating them.

This created a huge problem now. Benching MAtS after losing today can be really, really bad for him. Next CL game is Ajax at home. But there's a fifa break coming, and that game is in 3 weeks. So playing MAtS after so long without playing time can be bad... but benching could be worse. Kind of a predicament.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I don't think Lucho will drop him, but he really should get that game against Eibar at Camp Nou before the Ajax match in that case. Sending him out there again without even more time without match time will make the matter even worse.

I don't like this seperate GKs thing. It looks like we will have 3 seperates GKs for the 3 competitions this season and I think that's bad.
 

SeloBarca

Senior Member
Mats shouldnt beb enched. Instead he should be played much more.
Clearly it was lack of experiance and not knowing his defenders that put him at disadvantage today.
 

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
People focusing too much on him getting caught in no mans land in the 2nd goal, but that was situation was bad either way. The fail occurred in the marking that left Verratti and another 2 players unmarked in the far post, and no, it wasn't Rakitic who was zone marking the middle of the box.
If MAtS would have stayed under posts he would have still gotten a point blank header at his goal and chances are that's still a goal. It looks worse because he got caught, but that was a collective team marking fail that should not have happened.
 

Devils

Senior Member
It was such a ridiculous decision to play him.

Lucho said he likes to manage his teams through logic, well there really was zero logic in starting Ter-Stegen today.

The last person who should be blamed today is MATS.
 

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