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Messi snowman
10 - Lionel Messi - v2
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darthvader7888
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292 for his club. Not bad considering he's 2 years younger.
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mitkoa7x
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Yannick03
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This is just mind boggling. Ronaldo is always hailed as an absolute goal machine, a perfect footballing specimen. Yet, Messi has roughly the same amount of goals with roughly 140 games LESS. That is absolutely incredible, if Messi had the same number of matches and he maintained his average goal per game (which is very unlikely considering the past few years), he would have 402 goals, 100 goals more and that's not even adding his assists.
But the most impressive thing for me is, he doesn't need an athletic body from which many athletes would be jealous of. No, he just plays with his brain, simple football performed at the highest speed and genius at a consistent rate from which we have never seen the likes before. For me, he already has transcended his sport, I believe he is up there with Michael Jordan, Muhammed Ali and Eddy Merckx (cycling fans around here ?).
He's like nothing I ever seen before and I am certain I will never see such genius in any sport yet again, I'll be happy at the end of my life to have lived in the era of Messi when live streaming on the internet was free for everyone and I could watch his and Barcelona's genius every week for over a decade.
Papabeef
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Foreman was a better athlete than Ali
Nadal is a better athlete than Federer
I cant understand this concept.... at that Cristiano has around 100 professional players who are athletically more complete, certainly it depends on what bases we are pointing, but why are poeple all of the sudden obsessing with the athlete part of this sport to have a verdict on who a better player is when all top players ever were either short, thin or squishy lol Di Stefano, Garrincha, Pele, Zico, Cruyff, Maradona, Baggio, Zidane, Messi, Iniesta, Xavi...R9 is like the hulk compared to most of this list..
Yes athleticism is important but its not the driving factor otherwise Bolt would have room on SAF's bench atleast... This is Football ! Messi is probably (With the Ball) one of the fastest players ever if not the fastest, you want athleticism there it is.
Nadal is a better athlete than Federer
I cant understand this concept.... at that Cristiano has around 100 professional players who are athletically more complete, certainly it depends on what bases we are pointing, but why are poeple all of the sudden obsessing with the athlete part of this sport to have a verdict on who a better player is when all top players ever were either short, thin or squishy lol Di Stefano, Garrincha, Pele, Zico, Cruyff, Maradona, Baggio, Zidane, Messi, Iniesta, Xavi...R9 is like the hulk compared to most of this list..
Yes athleticism is important but its not the driving factor otherwise Bolt would have room on SAF's bench atleast... This is Football ! Messi is probably (With the Ball) one of the fastest players ever if not the fastest, you want athleticism there it is.
MMKa
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Not counting U-18 Barca Juvenil matches and club friendlies, different charity matches, Messi has 350 goals in 490 Barca, Barca B, Barca C, Argentina A official adult level matches plus Argentina U23, U20 games. In official top tier matches (Barca & Argentina A) Messi has 323 in 435.
Transfermarkt.de, missing couple of games, has these stats:
Messi 319 goals, 155 assists, 421 games.
Cronaldo 319 goals, 131 assists, 535 games.
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darthvader7888
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He's not in his prime yet AND has way more assists than Ronaldo, a winger... as a striker (I know he's a false 9, but still, a better goal/game ratio AND a much better assist record is pretty damn impressive).
sabby
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Not really, look how much injury prone he is. Djokovic is probably a better athlete than Federer right now.
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