10 - Lionel Messi - v2
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Pepe Silvia
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this. Because then when he's not fit and struggling through it he comes off as whiny and kind of like an asshole on the pitch when it could very well just be that he's in pain and should be on bench.
abual3bed1
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Messi isn't any player, when he's in a bad form (I'm not sure how is this a bad form) you keep playing him till he regains it. Subbing him off or even dropping him isn't gonna help at all. You do this with other players Not Leo.
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He's in a bad form, but there's room to talk about the reasons behind his bad form. Many here say it's just about the injury. I think there's more. I even think it's about a lack of hunger in his special case. It's the champions syndrome. You win, win, win, win, trophy after trophy, until you get bored of winning. Watch Alexis, the guy is desperate to prove something. Messi, on the other hand, has already been where Alexis is trying to get. He has seen and won all there is to win in football, except the World Cup, that's a sensation he's yet to experiment. Maybe Messi has reached to the point where he can be motivated by special things only.
Think about it, Messi has been playing super-football since 2008. That's 5 years in a row now - a standard prime period for any athlete. Maybe he's not an extraterrestrial player anymore, "just" a great, great player. That's good enough for me and I can accept it.
About the bolded parts. Messi has to realise he is not trying hard enough and he can do much better. I've seen him walk on the pitch like he was going to the supermarket, when Alexis and Neymar where both trying to free themselves, to make room and receive the ball in favorable positions. Not Messi, he was still walking. It's just the effort I'm talking about here, pure effort.
Several times he was way - and I mean way - offside and he didn't even bother to get back in play and receive the ball. Messi or no Messi, that's not a winning attitude. Now, maybe he is not fit. If that's the case, I can understand it and we should all give him a break, because he's earned it. But if he feels fit and doesn't give 100% just because he doesn't bother to, or doesn't think he needs to give everything vs. some regular La Liga teams, then we have a problem. ALL PLAYERS ARE TO BE TREATED EQUAL. Messi is a brilliant, brilliant player, but no player is bigger than the team. I stand for this even if it may upset some people.
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Luftstalag14
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Kudos to the last two paragraphs.
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No way Messi is just a "great" now, I still believe he: 1- hasn't recovered 100%; 2- has but doesn't to push 100% afraid of being injured again. It's not like he has lost his skills or hunger. 2013 wasn't his greatest year, that's true, but I'm sure he'll be in top very soon after an effective recovery.
I have been criticising him lately for the apparent lack of interest, but who knows if the guy isn't in pain but doesn't want to sit out of the matches? I expect him to overcome this, I believe he will score twice against AC Milan and permanently shut up the critics like me.
I have been criticising him lately for the apparent lack of interest, but who knows if the guy isn't in pain but doesn't want to sit out of the matches? I expect him to overcome this, I believe he will score twice against AC Milan and permanently shut up the critics like me.
abual3bed1
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So he doesn't score, just not scoring but almost doing everything else. And for god's sake it's only been 3 games without scoring (4 in liga) but he scored only 10 days ago against an ultra defensive Milan at San Siro. Why didn't he the champions syndrome in the 1st month of the season where scored in almost every game he played in?? Why now exactly? I can't understand how high the standards people want from Leo? He's doing great and lack of goals doesn't change that.
Oh my god, are actually suggesting that Messi is now getting into a decline?? Really?? Only because of those last games?? WOW!
Now this seals to be honest. Messi has to work hard?? Didn't you watch el clasico one week ago where he did almost everything but scoring?? Messi recovered 7 balls in el clasico making him 3rd or 4th best of the night. Ran almost as much as any other player and was the the one who had to clear the spaces for Neymar and Cesc (Usually it's all the way around).
The walking thing, now that you're saying this, I'm guessing you haven't watched much of Barca in the last years. People have been complaining about this thing in particular for a very long time yet he won 4 BdOs, 3 golden shoe and 4 times UCL top goal scorer by walking most of the game. I agree about the all players are equal thing but with Leo it's totally different. Just remember that a 1 legged Messi got us through to UCL semi-finals last season and that means a lot in any football book. Now that he has the help we always called for from the other strikers he's adjusting to a less demanding game after pulling this team behind him for years. So just stop it already. It's getting annoying with the Messi in crisis thing.
You are all (nearly all) stupid.
Against Celta he made a perfect game, but he just couldn't score. Against Espanyol was his first poor game. He was only just back from an injury.
He has 4 years played constant wonderful football. he can also play 2-3 games not so good. He is still only 26 years old! He has broken all record and 5 weeks before he was 4 goals ahead Ronaldo in the Liga BBVA.
I can not read this stupid BS anymore .I'll come back when messi is back in amazing form in 1-2 weeks...
MESSI is the best Player! And he has 5-6 Years more to go! Enjoy!!
Against Celta he made a perfect game, but he just couldn't score. Against Espanyol was his first poor game. He was only just back from an injury.
He has 4 years played constant wonderful football. he can also play 2-3 games not so good. He is still only 26 years old! He has broken all record and 5 weeks before he was 4 goals ahead Ronaldo in the Liga BBVA.
I can not read this stupid BS anymore .I'll come back when messi is back in amazing form in 1-2 weeks...
MESSI is the best Player! And he has 5-6 Years more to go! Enjoy!!
Messi is such a great player than everyone in the entire world(media basically) are getting worried because of 3-4 goal less games while everyone didn't even care to notice Cristiano when he struggled in the first few games this season.
This! This! This! Ronaldo didn't score in the first 4 games of the season and played really poor...
abual3bed1
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Media make goals count for everything. Which is the main problem.
So true. As I said, Ronaldo didn't score in the first few matches of this season, but people still think he is worthier of winning the Ballon D'Or this year than Messi. Because wheen Ronaldo, or any other player doesn't score for 2-3 matches, it's business as usual. When Messi doesn't score for 3-4 matches, he's A) not trying hard enough B) injured C) not trying hard enough or simply in a deep crisis. Just shows how unearthly his normal standards areMessi is such a great player that everyone in the entire world(media basically) are getting worried because of 3-4 goal less games while everyone didn't even care to notice Cristiano when he struggled in the first few games this season.
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