10 - Lionel Messi - v3

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Kerrybai

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He came to La Liga when he was 24, and he is significantly better now than he was when he came here. So I wouldn't say he was in his prime. And world's most expensive team means nothing when the best players actually play(ed) at Barca and cost nothing.

Mate, it's a credit to the players if they go to a new league and play well. You can't say it's no big deal and expect all players that move to a different country to keep their performance.

Surely, it is alot harder to change to a new team and keep your high level than be in a familiar setup throughout your entire career. Don't be daft.

Nothing daft about it. He's not learning a different sport. In fact he was going back to a style of football he would have been familiar with since his time Portugal. He's a model professional who has worked tirelessly to perfect his game, moving to Spain was never going to cause him any problems. Had he gone to Italy I would be singing a different tune but Spanish football suits him down to the ground.
 

te amo barca

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Man footyfan :facepalm: can't you check the stats before you post something? You look like a clueless "expert" trying to be a smartass.
 

footyfan

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Messi has 74 assists in La Liga since 2009-2010.

http://kahkonen.arkku.net/messi/?matches/index/EveryFCBo

Those stats are definitely wrong, or have a different assist definition.

You can look at either whoscored.com or messivsronaldo.net, both say 59 for Messi since 09-10. And they do seem closer to what I remember the stats to be.

Edit: That website you posted says Messi has 36 assists in 2011-12 for Barcelona, blatantly untrue.
 
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te amo barca

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Those stats are definitely wrong, or have a different assist definition.

You can look at either whoscored.com or messivsronaldo.net, both say 59 for Messi since 09-10. And they do seem closer to what I remember the stats to be.
No they aren't, transfermarkt says 74 (including 09/10)
 

Kerrybai

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Except for the part where he hits the post right?

Unless it hits the post and goes in

Regarding those assist stats, a user on here MMKA runs that website and I think he uses transfermarket for assist stats. Transfermarket uses a broader definition for stats, one that we do not use here on the barcaforum stats page. Whoscored.com uses the stricter definition.
 

raskolnikov

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Messi's penalty ratio in la liga is solid, maybe better than Ronaldo. His overall ratio is lower cause he missed several in the copa.
 
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