Kerrybai
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Maybe that puking was a symptom of some condition? Who knows... it's all very worrying but I see no point in taking guesses as to why his fitness is so poor. We just have to wait and see how he is next season.
10 - Lionel Messi - v3
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Maybe that puking was a symptom of some condition? Who knows... it's all very worrying but I see no point in taking guesses as to why his fitness is so poor. We just have to wait and see how he is next season.
eye-switcher
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But alot of players have done that and not seem nearly as affected so i dont Think thats the whole story
eye-switcher
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But the puking has been there for a much longer time though...
Kerrybai
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That's true, I guess his injury before Christmas has taken it's toll. He probably ruined his rhythm.
Clockwise
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He looks sad
Probably thinking about Barca and how unhappy he is
Those pictures are proof. He'll leave.
Thanks for everything Leo
that escalated quickly lol
eye-switcher
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Clockwise
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Nah he is unhappy with the Suarez signing...
he is worried he will have bite marks added to his bruises
Butaan4barca
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lol, you guys just gave sports a headline for tomorrow. They will add some heavy offers from themselves though
Icarium
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Every coach says before the match against messi: We know how to stop messi/we have a plan to stop messi
But after the match : We were better but they have best player in the planet......
But seriously lvg nearly neutralized messi, even though messi was not playing at near his best, his little runs proved efficient in before matches actually all matches, Netherlands match credit can be given to palacio and maxi too but he had a very quite night by his stadards. Many coaches know how to stop him, just shadow him with a DM and surround with 3 players when he gets the ball. If he was at his physical best he would have find a way to beat that but now it is just getting harder and harder with better marking. I don't understand one thing though if opponent knows how to stop your best player there must be a counter for that plan right? I mean there must be someway the team mates and coach play like that he gets more space right? Di Maria Higuain and Aguero/Lavezzi are supposed to do that, i don't know what they are doing, so useless aguero lavezzi and even higuain and Di maria not at their usual level. Messi is not at his best but what about the rest. Argentina defense is playing beyond their expectations but what is the rest of attack doing? Argentina reached finals very unconvincingly, i hope that changes in the final.
I don't know what is the problem with messi but it just hurts to see him nullified in some matches, he looks like mortal now. Not only his physical situation but tactics must improve too. Neymar and Suarez might help in that direction, lucho should make the team around messi even though we have neymar and suarez the team should work such that we get the best out of messi again. It has been working for us it will work again just with better tactics.
But after the match : We were better but they have best player in the planet......
But seriously lvg nearly neutralized messi, even though messi was not playing at near his best, his little runs proved efficient in before matches actually all matches, Netherlands match credit can be given to palacio and maxi too but he had a very quite night by his stadards. Many coaches know how to stop him, just shadow him with a DM and surround with 3 players when he gets the ball. If he was at his physical best he would have find a way to beat that but now it is just getting harder and harder with better marking. I don't understand one thing though if opponent knows how to stop your best player there must be a counter for that plan right? I mean there must be someway the team mates and coach play like that he gets more space right? Di Maria Higuain and Aguero/Lavezzi are supposed to do that, i don't know what they are doing, so useless aguero lavezzi and even higuain and Di maria not at their usual level. Messi is not at his best but what about the rest. Argentina defense is playing beyond their expectations but what is the rest of attack doing? Argentina reached finals very unconvincingly, i hope that changes in the final.
I don't know what is the problem with messi but it just hurts to see him nullified in some matches, he looks like mortal now. Not only his physical situation but tactics must improve too. Neymar and Suarez might help in that direction, lucho should make the team around messi even though we have neymar and suarez the team should work such that we get the best out of messi again. It has been working for us it will work again just with better tactics.
Argentina were basically playing a semi-counterattacking 5-2-1-2 formation (4-3-1-2 with Masch playing a god damn DM/CB hybrid), with Lavezzi out wide and Messi isolated for almost the ENTIRE MATCH. It's not hard to stop Messi against that formation, against a mediocre Argentina, with nobody creating any spaces, and gluing 3-5 defenders on Messi at all times.
JamDav1982
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Messi never had 3/5 defenders on him the whole time against the Netherlands and the reason he does have little room when he receives ball is lack of movement.
For most of the game against the Netherlands he rarely had more than one player marking him. They didnt need to do much more than that.
Kerrybai
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While his movement was very poor he was certainly marked tightly. They didn't put 3 players directly on him but they cut off any space he might usually have. They played boxed him out and isolated him from his team mates.
! Leo make us proud. Vamos Argentina!
JamDav1982
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They clearly kept men back and in shape and that allowed them to stop him as he was never much attempt from him to make things more difficult with movement etc.
People who act as if he was marked by 3/4 players and there was nothing more he could do are way off the mark.
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