10 - Lionel Messi - v4
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raskolnikov
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Take a look at the Spanish foro, they are not that happy with Cristiano all the time, which makes sense of course.
Its logical when you care about the club first before a player, then nobody is above critisism, not even Messi. Doesnt mean that not every Barca fan considers him the goat.
Imagine the same scenario with Dinho after 2008, critisism was justified despite what he had meant for Barca even if he had stayed and been part of a treble winning side a year later.
KyletheMuslim
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What are you smoking mate ? Messi is only 28, he was statistically at his best in the 2011-2012 season But last season was his best ever I feel. The way he influences and dominates games on his own, never used to happen so frequently
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
But Messi still helped the team. More so than most of our players. That's what was hard to understand. He was struggling, no doubt, but he still had an impact on the team and performed better than most. Atleast IMO.
Messi's situation was vastly different than Ronaldinho's @raskolnikov
R10 had issues on-field AND off-field. The club had to hire a man to drop him home after all the partying all the time because he was too drunk to do so himself.
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Flavia
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Xavi left because he wanted to.
Messi is the biggest Barça legend ever. No fan should even entertain the idea of selling him, for all he gave the club, and will still give. That's up to him.
raskolnikov
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Well, Xavi wasnt exactly that much past prime, or atleast his past prime level was stil higher than most midfielders in the world, he would have been very helpful even today. He just left cause he wanted a change.
Vlom
Previously known as Mehssi
He left at 35, not 27 mate, and still we would have kept him if he wanted because he's a legend of ours, even if he stays on the bench, not sell him and make harsh surveys about getting rid of him and him being past it !
And I might shock some, but Messi has at the very least twice the legacy of any other player of the last decade, that includes Xavi and Iniesta.
serghei
Senior Member
Nah, I don't buy that. Had he played more and thought he is still important for this team, he would've stayed. It is my opinion that he left because he didn't feel as valuable as before. It's hard to go from being a leader of this team to a bench option. Some want to leave with great memories, not with years of being Rakitic's sub.
serghei
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For Barca, Messi, Xavi and Iniesta are the same in my book. The same. Messi individually is better of course, but it can also be argued that Xavi and Iniesta have some of the most complete careers I've seen in football, if we leave out individual awards. More complete than Messi, who didn't have the same success with his NT.
raskolnikov
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Thats true, maybe in a normal market with a capable board but it did look ike Messi changing leagues and Barca going in a different direction was best for everyone at times.
Im pretty sure if we had a shitty season again like it looked pre anoeta the overall tune woud be very different.
For Messi himself probably as well, remember him being all nice about Chelsea, Cesc's wife being bff's with his girl, folowing chelsea payers on instagram and voting for Mourinho as best coach all in those 2 months before everything went in the opposite direction. at the rate it was going I could have easily seen him wanting to pull a Pedro at the end of another bad season.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
And Xavi could and most likely would have left before Lucho was appointed when he still was a starter. The rumours of him started mid-way during Tata's tenture. The only reason he stayed for an extra season was because Lucho requested him so, and that by defining his role too. Xavi knew what he was getting into, but still decided to stay another season.
Vlom
Previously known as Mehssi
Record scorer, record assists, record .. freaking everything !
Not much more can be said really, anything else than absolute worshiping and gratefulness is trolling.
Lol, yep, trolling as I said.
Barcafan 2304
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And that's the worry I have long term after Bart being voted in for the foreseeable future. Still pissed off socis voted him and his cronies in
serghei
Senior Member
Calm down. You sound like you're possessed. It's a calm conversation, don't get too emotional about it.
Vlom
Previously known as Mehssi
It's fucking insane that we're even having this discussion amongst barça "fans" ... blows my mind honestly.
Well I get this emotional when fighting it out with madrid fans, but you're using the same arguments mate.
Well I get this emotional when fighting it out with madrid fans, but you're using the same arguments mate.
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