10 - Lionel Messi - v5

serghei

serghei

Senior Member
Luftstalag14 said:
Serghei, not that I disagree with everything you said but why do you always come out with this sort of revisionist stuff to paint Messi’s legacy in a very bad light after a bad performance by Messi? It is getting tiresome.
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Because no one is addressing the issue in any way. It's as if those issues don't exist. Nobody is even mentioning them except me and JamDav from time to time.

Messi's legacy has alwasy been that of a forward. He has no legacy as a Xavi-like midfield creator who just runs the show from deep.
 
blaugrana1987

blaugrana1987

New member
likeafire said:
Did u see Meza, Pavon, Perez?? Combined effort of ZERO. Not a pass. Not a shot. Nothing from them combined.

Dybala is a top player than can produce something out of nothing. And would've gave the opposition defence something more to worry about and maybe even freed up Messi a little bit
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But they ran around and fouled French players hard. Thats the thing, defensively, Argentina was a mess for entire WC. They had no chance at all.
 
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D10S91

New member
Much2soon said:
I hope taking a break from the national team is a possibility for him. Argentina FA needs to sort their shit together and have their young players integrated into the team.

He should wait until after 2019 Copa América to return.
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I really hope he doesn't. He has a (slim) chance to win 2019 or 2020 Copa, even if they aren't the favourites he should try his hardest to win something with Argentina as long as he can play at a high level.. Just 1 trophy on the international stage would make such a difference even if it's not the most coveted.

And honestly, it would not be good optics for him to retire again like this..
 
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TitoTata

Banned
Barcilliant said:
Exactly. But our idiot fans will say he is just a work horse and say Busquets is better.

Kante is a beast and his ability to cover so much ground and disrupt play is a huge asset in world football today. But people will insist Busquets is better for our style 😂 😃 😃 😃
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We need both ...Kante in , Rakitic out - job done
 
dakt

dakt

Active member
People get carried away so easily. What they witnessed for 10 years now, they loose it in a day. Incredible.
 
serghei

serghei

Senior Member
Luftstalag14 said:
WHat is the problem? Midfield?
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The biggest problem imo is Messi's position and how managers (both Barca's and Argentina's) choose to manage his skills and his flaws. This has led to major humilations for Barcelona and Argentina in high pressure games in Cup competitions. Messi has basically been used as this god-like player who can play everywhere deciding everything with his genius touch. The cold result is the opposite. He's not scoring, not creating danger and more and more opponents have him in their pocket.

The way he plays in recent seasons in top games, his flaws are getting more visibility than his skills. That's either on Messi, the managers, or both.
 
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TitoTata

Banned
Donatello said:
Well,

Mascherano is 34, Iniesta is 34, Ronaldo is 33. Plus, there are numerous others.

If he maintains his physique, he can definitely play WC at 2022.

The thing is whether he is mentally prepared or not. I fear he may retire now.

But, Argentina need to start from basics. They need to build their team around Icardi and Dybala, who weren't even involved much.
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I'm thinking that Messi has a problem with Dybala which is why he doesn't play . If Messi rated him he's surely got enough clout to get him some playing time ??
 
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