JamDav1982
Senior Member
Pedro was there to score goals it was one of his main strengths.... he also he Mess feeding him from a closer position in the middle.
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Pedro was there to score goals it was one of his main strengths.... he also he Mess feeding him from a closer position in the middle.
xavi_the_Boss
New member
Griezmann is Atleticos main goalscorer.
Barcalove
Banned
Yea, the only detail is that the only large games he scored in the whole season, was 1 sitter against Real madrid in the 4-0 ..
While neymar
5 goals vs Psg
1 goal vs Real madrid
2 goals vs Sevilha
3 goals vs Atletico de Madri
3 goals vs Villareal
Why so much hate bojan?
xavi_the_Boss
New member
Hmm well besides that he doesn´t seem to add that much to them.
Barcalove
Banned
How im the world neymar numbers arent realistics if than half of his goals were against good opposition?
33 goals :
3 vs Athletic bilbao
5 vs Psg
1 vs Real madrid
2 vs Sevilha
3 vs Atletico de Madri
3 vs Villareal
Total 17 goals against hard opposition, or 51% of his goals, how in the world this is statpadding?
33 goals :
3 vs Athletic bilbao
5 vs Psg
1 vs Real madrid
2 vs Sevilha
3 vs Atletico de Madri
3 vs Villareal
Total 17 goals against hard opposition, or 51% of his goals, how in the world this is statpadding?
BBZ8800
Senior Member
Please, I really have to go
I wasn't here 2-3 years ago to post that Messi is also statpadding.
I wasn't interested in checking numbers until Ney started to score too much and get too much praise for his Goals.
Even though, Ronaldo's 40-50 league goals were always too suspicious for me.
So, yes, I checked only because of Ney, and since then my opinion is that goals from ALL La liga's and similar current leagues are not realistic anymore.
To be honest, world football is not too reach with world class attackers currently, so Ney surely is the best, I agree.
Also, Ney is by far the best Brasilian player, but again, is it because he is sooo good or because this is the worst Brasil side since 1982 and 1986?
Also, I am not actually "hating" him that much.
I am more pissed with overhyping how he is soooo good.
You know how CR7 is a good player, but not as good as Real's fans think that he is.
So, we, Barca fans are pissed of with unrealistic Madrid's fans.
The same is with me and Ney.
Our fans are overhyping him the same as Madrid's fans with CR7.
Ney is good, I agree.
Ney is awesome.
But some posts here are over the top.
Again, even I, as a Neyhater thinks that he is in top5 players in the world.
But I expect more from him, and I want trophies, and not only youtube videos and meaningless La liga goals and goals in 1/8 and QF of a CL.
Again, I can't force you to slightly lover the love for Neymar.
You also can't force me to "praise" him even more.
But since 90% of people here are, imo, slightly overatting him, there is no point in fighting.
Again, I just posted what he needs to do for me, to get some love and praise.
And look at this, we can easily fill the 20 pages in the next 3-4 hours with: but why this, why that and 100s of offtopic comparisons and analysis.
Please, nooooot again
What hate did you see in my post? Easy to dismiss like that labeling someone. Does Neymar criticism upsets you so? Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
Which players does Griezmann have to serve him and which serve Neymar?
Why so much posterboy stuff?
BBZ8800
Senior Member
The fact that Atletico creates like what, 2 shots per match, and Barca creates 15-20 deadly 1 vs 1 situations against most of the teams, you won't add that into a calculation.
This topic will always be golden, with insane stats and comparisons from both sides, I have to agree.
A pure gold of a topic and of exaggerations from each side
JamDav1982
Senior Member
BBZ not looking for you to praise him just be fair which you are not.
You make up these stat passing rules that have never been applied to any Barca player and go on to say you will blame him for trophies not won.
You have been on since April 2014 and never mentioned anything about Messi stat padding. Why not Suarez thread say same thing? Or down play what Pep did in a weak La Liga?
Rules get changed all the time ads to suit the anti Neymar argument.
If you dont like him thats fine and up to you but its going to be hard for you to watch all the great things he does in a Barca strip for the next 7/8 years and keep coming up with excuses as to down play anything he does.
You make up these stat passing rules that have never been applied to any Barca player and go on to say you will blame him for trophies not won.
You have been on since April 2014 and never mentioned anything about Messi stat padding. Why not Suarez thread say same thing? Or down play what Pep did in a weak La Liga?
Rules get changed all the time ads to suit the anti Neymar argument.
If you dont like him thats fine and up to you but its going to be hard for you to watch all the great things he does in a Barca strip for the next 7/8 years and keep coming up with excuses as to down play anything he does.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Haha, no he said it nothing like it is.
Icarium
Lifestealer
You are not alone in demanding more from neymar. And it is your opinion to like his style of football or not, no body should force you to like him. And even i don't think he is one of the best brazilian player. At least not at this level. It is just that some of us just don't want you to undermine his success so much, that is pretty much it.
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