14 - Javier Mascherano

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
Don't you think, like, you know, Mascherano kinda knew this prior to signing for Barcelona? -_-

Mascherano is a new player, from a different league, from a different background, from a different system. He plays at the position currently occupied by one of the hottest prospects on that position, Mister Sergio Busquets. This player has been reshaped from a striker or something to that position in the youth ranks of Barcelona, there being indoctrinated by Barcelona's way of the game. The result of that combination? The man was a key factor in the world's biggest finals in football (Champions League + World Cup), which were both won, in his first two years of top class football. There is no way thinkable Mascherano would walk into the team and dismiss Busquets to the bench. Mascherano needs to adapt, learn the system, grow into the team. You know, like Barcelona does with all their cantera players: that is exactly the reason players like Busquets, Pedro, ... can make it in their first year with the A-team: they know everything and are able to play along, they are already adapted to the distinct way of playing. Mascherano is new, doesn't know the club or anyone in it (besides the argies), he will see a lot of the bench, he will learn a lot on training, he will have to take his chances when he gets playig time and he will work his way up the ladder. That's how it should go, he will have to earn it's place not by transfer, but by working hard and proving he is the best (and he cannot be now yet for the above reasons)

This is of course different than Yaya's case. Yaya was here PRIOR to Sergio Busquets. Yaya grew at Barcelona to that famous player, Yaya played keyroles in that treble season, Yaya was the man and the man had a firm grip on his position (that season Sergio was still just a substitute for Yaya). Until little Sergio breaks through and ousts him from that permanent entitlement. Guardiola recognises the talent and potential of Sergio (and more importantly: brought him with him via the youth team which means a special bond prior to the A-team relation, key fact in my opinion) and starts to rotate him and Yaya (Sergio mainly league/Yaya mainly CL) ... Yaya doesn't understand. The new kid on the block with his play-acting etc. nicks the place of the proven powerhouse? He's confused, doesn't take his chances when he is playing, his agent doesn't get it either, Yaya is off to the ACN and when back, Guardiola needed to make his choice for the season's money time and he picked Busquets as the main man with Yaya getting a more limited schedule ... and you know the rest of the story.

It's like the baby and the dog-thing. You buy a baby prior to a dog, not vice versa. Otherwise there is a big chance that the dog can't process the altering situation of priorities and attention. Not saying Yaya or Mascherano are the euivalents of dogs, but Busquets surely is Guardiola's baby.

every thing inch perfect except for the highlighted part... Yaya felt jeolous of Keiteee, his agent even attacked him in the press, like "even that Keitee plays but my client doesn't!!"
agree Yaya did say if it weren't for Busquets he wouldn't have had to leave Barcelona, but he couldn't bare Keitee being picked ahead of him too. Pep too did say he would play Yaya more often in the mid field, like BTB, after Gamper but then don't know what exactly happened
 
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Valon

Guest
Because Keita worked his socks off whereas Yaya was a lazy bastard. Take your pick, who would you play?
 

Gnegneri

immaculately conceived
every thing inch perfect except for the highlighted part... Yaya felt jeolous of Keiteee, his agent even attacked him in the press, like "even that Keitee plays but my client doesn't!!"
agree Yaya did say if it weren't for Busquets he wouldn't have had to leave Barcelona, but he couldn't bare Keitee being picked ahead of him too. Pep too did say he would play Yaya more often in the mid field, like BTB, after Gamper but then don't know what exactly happened
Easy to explain (in hindsight, I know):

He (probably his agent though) went for Keita cause they couldn't touch Busquets, attacking him was too risky. After all, it was someone from the cantera, too symbolic for the club. You can't pick Iniesta or Xavi in that midfield either so obvious choice left: Keita. Not so flashy, hard worker, low profile name, no cantera and a position Yaya could cover. Now, we're not saying that Yaya couldn't have done better than Keita ... but you just don't claim places via the press. Nor are you going to oust a player from his position on the pitch or the starting ladder by doing at that time sort of the opposite of what that player adds to the team. Thus jealous on one player ... but taking it out publicly on another player (and the coach?). That is not right for the atmosphere in the group.

So for the baby-dog thing: he was jealous of the baby but was smart enough not to attack the baby (a dog can never win that) and vented towards another dog. Until afterwards he admitted that he could not stand the baby took his place so he left because of that reason.

What makes it more tragic is that he left because of competition. And few weeks ago he complains about some of his City teammates not being edgy or competitive enough. Combined with the Busquets comment, I would say that are signs of recognizing he went down a step sporting level wise while still being in the prime of his career (confirmed by transfer fee). No doubt the money will make him extremely happy outside the pitch, but he is still a football player. And if you like to play football (which I think he surely does), I think the main source of happiness will still be what you are on the pitch.
 

gingerless

Active member
What makes it more tragic is that he left because of competition. And few weeks ago he complains about some of his City teammates not being edgy or competitive enough. Combined with the Busquets comment, I would say that are signs of recognizing he went down a step sporting level wise while still being in the prime of his career (confirmed by transfer fee). No doubt the money will make him extremely happy outside the pitch, but he is still a football player. And if you like to play football (which I think he surely does), I think the main source of happiness will still be what you are on the pitch.

was just about to point this out
 
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PhilS

Guest
Although Busquets and Mascherano have played the same position up to now in their careers, we will see them on the field together with this team. At least for some games, maybe for most games by next season. They say they can play together. Seems appealing against the very best offensive teams, or when not all the best back-line players are available. They could each start 40-50 games a year, not overuse either one.
 
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Barcilliant

Senior Member
I wanna see both Busquets and Mascherano play together-especially against the good counter attacking teams. I think its an excellent combination especially in CL games away from home.
 

evilhita666

Barçapocalypse NOW!
Sooooooooo, Mascherano has been here for a while now... After his first two matches (Hércules and Atlético) he had two yellow cards, but he has not been booked since and he has played 12 games... Also, in his 6 starts in the season he's been whistled for a total of 6 fouls... Great way to shut some people up (including me) about his though play, way to go Jefecito!
 

Daemul

previously known as Jonathan28
I agree, he has adapted unbeliveably quick to La Liga and the whistle happy referees. I am actually so happy we got him over Cesc.
 

barcetia

Mikrofonkåt
Easy to explain (in hindsight, I know):

He (probably his agent though) went for Keita cause they couldn't touch Busquets, attacking him was too risky. After all, it was someone from the cantera, too symbolic for the club. You can't pick Iniesta or Xavi in that midfield either so obvious choice left: Keita. Not so flashy, hard worker, low profile name, no cantera and a position Yaya could cover. Now, we're not saying that Yaya couldn't have done better than Keita ... but you just don't claim places via the press. Nor are you going to oust a player from his position on the pitch or the starting ladder by doing at that time sort of the opposite of what that player adds to the team. Thus jealous on one player ... but taking it out publicly on another player (and the coach?). That is not right for the atmosphere in the group.

So for the baby-dog thing: he was jealous of the baby but was smart enough not to attack the baby (a dog can never win that) and vented towards another dog. Until afterwards he admitted that he could not stand the baby took his place so he left because of that reason.

What makes it more tragic is that he left because of competition. And few weeks ago he complains about some of his City teammates not being edgy or competitive enough. Combined with the Busquets comment, I would say that are signs of recognizing he went down a step sporting level wise while still being in the prime of his career (confirmed by transfer fee). No doubt the money will make him extremely happy outside the pitch, but he is still a football player. And if you like to play football (which I think he surely does), I think the main source of happiness will still be what you are on the pitch.
you're the man :wub:

javier the ripper, another awesome game!
 

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