4 - Ronald Araújo

[JamDav1982]

Nothing wrong with Lewa transfer as it was nothing in the range of Bellingham next big thing value we could not afford. Lewa was an established name when he arriverd. Came in the right time we were desperate and he was useful during last season. But he's a depleted resource now, to refer Star Craft.

If I was the negative forum member here I'd be completely mad with that Raphinha chap as he's not even 30% of the transfer fee we paid for him.

Lewa transfer is horrendously bad and yes it is relevant how much paying for him on books in comparison to what others have done.

Of course Barca could afford a Bellingham like transfer.. Lewa is costing more and rumoured salary going up to 30m+ next season.. so bad it could be true.

Last season where Barca paid huge money for him on books... where he scores less frequently in league than Auba or LDJ did season before and a much better team scored 2 more goals with him at CF.

Did fuck all in league v Real and Atletico etc.

Then in Europe he flopped badly.. another reason that was given for his fee as more money in through European competition.

Absolutely woeful transfer and getting worse.

 

[Windhook]

Lewa transfer is horrendously bad and yes it is relevant how much paying for him on books in comparison to what others have done.

Last season where Barca paid huge money for him on books... where he scores less frequently in league than Auba or LDJ did season before and a much better team scored 2 more goals.

Did fuck all in league v Real and Atletico also.

Then in Europe he flopped badly.. another reason that was given for his fee as more money in through European competition.

Absolutely woeful transfer and getting worse.

I'm not denying Lewa having PTSD in CL, but comparing him to that Peter Crouch impersonator called LDJ, nah.

Also given the timeline you can't buy Lewa from Bayern for 15m at that point. Weren't you the fella who bunkered down defending Griezmann's 105m or whatever transfer back in the day?

 

[JamDav1982]

I'm not denying Lewa having PTSD in CL, but comparing him to that Peter Crouch impersonator called LDJ, nah.

Also given the timeline you can't buy Lewa from Bayern for 15m at that point. Weren't you the fella who bunkered down defending Griezmann's 105m or whatever transfer back in the day?

Yet LDJ had more goals per min in league in a worse side.

That is not to say LDJ is great.. far from it.. but fact he isnt great and scored at better rate is a farce and Lewa led a better team to two more league goals than previous season. While failing badly in Europe.

Awful awful signing that will limit what Barca can spend for a while yet.

Ridiculous money spent on Lewa at that age when was going to be that one window of spending big with some freedom.

 

[Porque]

Fixing the finances is easy if you accept Dortmund status. Sell the main players, invest in youth and drop the big titles and big team act.

Achraf Hakimi - 40m+
Varane - 40m+
Casemiro - 70m

Real Dortmund.

 

[serghei]

Achraf Hakimi - 40m+
Varane - 40m+
Casemiro - 70m

Real Dortmund.

Situation is not even remotely similar. Madrid had a stacked squad full of talent and invested huge money on players also.

Sold Casemiro because they have Tchouameni on the defensive midfield position, a younger 80m signing. Sold Hakimi because Carvajal was and still is better. Sold Varane but they got one of the best defenders on the planet in rudiger to replace him with.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Situation is not even remotely similar. Madrid had a stacked squad full of talent and invested huge money on players also.

Sold Casemiro because they have Tchouameni on the defensive midfield position, a younger 80m signing. Sold Hakimi because Carvajal was and still is better. Sold Varane but they got one of the best defenders on the planet in rudiger to replace him with.

Rudiger didnt cost them a penny... I thought no good players went for free?

 

[serghei]

Rudiger didnt cost them a penny... I thought no good players went for free?

They do if you are an elite side and if you can pay them big salaries. Hard to compare current Barca to Madrid. It's rare but it happens.

 

[Porque]

Situation is not even remotely similar. Madrid had a stacked squad full of talent and invested huge money on players also.

Sold Casemiro because they have Tchouameni on the defensive midfield position, a younger 80m signing. Sold Hakimi because Carvajal was and still is better. Sold Varane but they got one of the best defenders on the planet in rudiger to replace him with.

It's completely relevant to the idea that big clubs don't sell key players or starters.

At the point of sale, Varane was seen as Madrid's best defender, many said it was a bad move to sell Casemiro while you are probably the first person to rate Carvin Hall over Hakimi other than his ex wife.

 

[serghei]

It's completely relevant to the idea that big clubs don't sell key players or starters.

At the point of sale, Varane was seen as Madrid's best defender, many said it was a bad move to sell Casemiro while you are probably the first person to rate Carvin Hall over Hakimi other than his ex wife.

They can do that if the player is not motivated anymore and/or wants to leave for a bigger, longer contract.

Not relevant because both Varane and Casemiro already achieved everything there is to achieve in football at Madrid. It's just a completely different case to Barca selling Araujo now.

 

[JamDav1982]

Few weeks ago Araujo was vastly over rated and wouldnt get in any other top side while miles behind likes of Rudiger..

Usual folk at it.

 

[Porque]

They can do that if the player is not motivated anymore and/or wants to leave for a bigger, longer contract.

Not relevant because both Varane and Casemiro already achieved anything there is to at Madrid. It's just a completely different case to Barca selling Araujo now.

Whose to say Araujo wouldn't agree to the move if we are not willing to give him the wage he deserves. He is on low wages right now relative to the other CBs here.

The point really is though that as a big club, we need to be strategic and see if we can reinvest any big money offers we receive into other squad areas and improve.

Atleast at this moment in which we will have to look at this options until the Nou Camp Nou is here.

Madrid is an example that big clubs can and do sell key players when the opportunity comes. Not just Dortmunds.

 

[JamDav1982]

There is no way they sell Araujo unless he forces way out.

They could get fees for other CBs and keep him while have plenty other players can sell before him in other positions.

Would need to be good bit over 100m or involve top players in a swap for them ever to consider it.

 

[Sorin]

Another relatively poor showing, don’t know what is going on with him. He seems all over the place lately, even losing physical duels, which was a rarely occurrence before his poor form.

Needs to wake up.

 

[JamDav1982]

Despite aspects of leadership he isnt a defensive organiser and needs that beside him at moment.. neither Kounde or Christensen seem to be that either but positionally Christensen seems to be most clued up of the three but not exactly vocal.

Hopefully that comes in time but for now he has been a player probably more used to dominating physically to recover when out of position and never had to have that positional/organisational game in way others have to to survive.

Also he was a striker not long before Barca signed him and never grew up a CB.

Not having MATS and and a DM on front of him doesnt help.

This season Barca have lacked structure and leadership in defensive third.... MATS, Araujo with an organiser beside him and a proper DM and things improve ten fold.

Xavi knows it and sees Inigo as best placed to be that organiser I believe.. but cant keep him fit.

 

[TheStig]

That comes with age, you can't be a defense organizer at 20. Have no doubt Araujo will reach that level, only question is where. I wouldn't be surprised if Laporta pressures him like he did FDJ 2 years ago if Bayern is really willing to pay 100 mil.