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Sir Alupp Heynrguson
Ivanovic can't play with the ball anywhere well enough to be in a Barca team.
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Sir Alupp Heynrguson
Are we going to play Pique 100% of the games? And why not get a CB who can play the ball well and tackle well?
Cruijffista
SOY ANTIMADRIDISTA
Inigo Martinez actually reads the game really well and is very aware on the pitch.
The only knock on him would be his height and that he's not Thiago Silva.
I would have no problem with him being our CB of the present and the future. A bit overpriced @ 30M but he could end up playing with the club for many years.
The only knock on him would be his height and that he's not Thiago Silva.
I would have no problem with him being our CB of the present and the future. A bit overpriced @ 30M but he could end up playing with the club for many years.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
I really don't think you watch him or know enough about him to pull out "flavor of the month". He's been great all season, it's no ones fault but your own that you've never heard of him or know much about him.
Yes he is good in the air compared to other center backs. I'm not going to lie and say that he's among the best in the world in terms of aerial ability, but definitely sufficient to what we need.
He's great at reading the game and is able to intercept and block out counterattacks well, pressuring forward to close down space while Pique acts accordingly as his sweeper counterpart. Reckless? Far from it. Determined and strong in going forward to defend is a more accurate description. He, like all other CB's, will occasionally get caught in an error but he's 21 and is not very prone at all, reliable even compared to the best of defenders in this respect.
Ivanovic is a horrible CB option. Pique's passing ability does not make up for Ivanovic's unbelievable clumsiness in playing a passing game. While Pique is predominantly the "playmaking" CB, Ivanovic being there just disrupts the flow. If anything, Ivanovic is far more reckless than Martinez.
I disagree with the third paragraph. He doesn't impress me with his reading of the game. I will forgive his recklessness as he is young and will Improve.
I chose ivanovic because he is an option for a low price until a truly great centre back in the class of thiago silva is available. He's a solid defender with good reading of the game and has good aggression (not recklessness). However his pace is questionable. I don't think he's a long term solution at all but a stop gap and his low price is what attracted me. He's the best available for such a low price and a massive upgrade on our current options.
We only need one ball playing centre back. Puyol is not exactly a master of bringing the ball out and he managed fine because he had pique as his outlet.
I chose ivanovic because he is an option for a low price until a truly great centre back in the class of thiago silva is available. He's a solid defender with good reading of the game and has good aggression (not recklessness). However his pace is questionable. I don't think he's a long term solution at all but a stop gap and his low price is what attracted me. He's the best available for such a low price and a massive upgrade on our current options.
We only need one ball playing centre back. Puyol is not exactly a master of bringing the ball out and he managed fine because he had pique as his outlet.
Neal Faradinho
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DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
I really doubt you watch much of him at all. He's a better reader of the game than Varane ffs, he's shown it all season. Interceptions, positioning, applying pressure cleverly to force errors. It's one of his top qualities yet you act like it doesn't exist?
Ivanovic is hardly solid, can't defend counterattacks, and is very reckless. His first instinct when opposition attackers are running at him full speed would be to desperately slide at them.
Puyol is at least competent with the ball and continues the flow of the passing, Ivanovic would stick out like a sore thumb.
All ivanovic is required to do is pass sideways or back to the goalkeeper. I don't see why you think he isn't capable of such an easy task, he's not the one bringing the play forward, that's piques role.
Varane is a much better defender and more intelligent than Martinez. You're liking of him is clouding your judgement. He's not as good a reader of the game as you think. I have watched him for sociedad and in real life for Spain under 23, he didn't impress me at all.
Ivanovic is not a long term solution remember. He does not fit the qualities of a Barcelona centre back in that he lacks pace for the high line and he could be more comfortable with the ball. However considering our budget has been mostly spent on Neymar he is the best available centre back for the price we can spend. He is an experienced and solid defender.
If we sell some players and have more money to spend I would suggest other, better options. I am only suggesting him because he is the best we can do with what we have available. You seem to think we have unlimited money, and can spend 30 million in addition to the 57 million we've already spent, and we haven't sold a player yet.
Varane is a much better defender and more intelligent than Martinez. You're liking of him is clouding your judgement. He's not as good a reader of the game as you think. I have watched him for sociedad and in real life for Spain under 23, he didn't impress me at all.
Ivanovic is not a long term solution remember. He does not fit the qualities of a Barcelona centre back in that he lacks pace for the high line and he could be more comfortable with the ball. However considering our budget has been mostly spent on Neymar he is the best available centre back for the price we can spend. He is an experienced and solid defender.
If we sell some players and have more money to spend I would suggest other, better options. I am only suggesting him because he is the best we can do with what we have available. You seem to think we have unlimited money, and can spend 30 million in addition to the 57 million we've already spent, and we haven't sold a player yet.
darthvader7888
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Remember, the money for Neymar will be paid in installments. Since it'll be paid over 3 years, I'm guessing about 16M was paid up front (we spent 10m beforehand, so 47/3 = 16). So we have about 34M left.
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If you're right and we really do have 34 million then it's a better idea to first sell David villa for 12 million, and move on the better targets. This gives us plenty of money for my number one preferred target thiago silva. The transfer is complicated though because he will only leave in certain circumstances such as ancelotti or ibrahimovic leaving.
It's better to wait until things become clearer than to spend now.
It's better to wait until things become clearer than to spend now.
XaviMessiGirl
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Milan might try to buy Silva back if they sell El Shaarawy for 40m, that was some speculation in Sportmediaset yesterday anyway. So there's that issue too if that turns out to be true.
raskolnikov
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Problem is that 30 mil is also a lot of money, and he is in no hurry to leave now that Sociedad plays cl.
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