7 - Philippe Coutinho - V1

God Serena

New member
I get your point about predecided subs.

But still, subs from EV in the last few matches:
Betis: 64, 88, 90th minute
Lyon: 70, 74, 83
Rayo: 46, 80, 85
Real: 71, 78, 91
Real: 75, 78, 86

The only time when EV had earlier subs were:
Valencia 2:2: when we were losing 1:2 at half time: 46, 66, 84
Levante 2:1, at 2:0 for Levante: 46, 58, 67
Sevilla 2:4, while we were losing 2:1 at half time: 46, 46, 79
Espanyol: 59, 60, 82

So, in the last few matches when we were winning, the first sub occurred at: 46, 64, 70, 71, 75=average 65th minute
In the last few matches, when we were losing or needed a win, a first sub happened: 46, 46, 46, 59=average 49th minute

Also, the second sub occurred when we were winning: 74, 78, 78, 80, 88=average 80th minute
A seconds sub when we were losing/needed a win: 46, 58, 60, 66=average 58th minute

So, do you still think that EV's subs and a TIMING of those from yesterday were a pure coincidence and an autopilot?
Because, it is quite interesting... Whenever a score is not good, EV is way, way faster on subs than when we are winning.

So what you're saying is, when we're losing, he makes his pre-determined subs sooner, but when we're winning, he doesn't.

I can agree to this, but it's not something to really be impressed by. If anything, his earlier subs can be seen as panicking, and the fact that they are still the same exact subs shows he doesn't really know what he's doing regardless of why we're losing, and is just hoping making the subs earlier will magically change things.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
We better not sell coutinho.. fucking get rid of that coach...he’s the dumbest coach in Barca’s history.. coutinho is not a winger for goodness sake. It’s very obvious.. for Liverpool he played in midfield 95% of the time.. he’s a midfielder.. jus because he performed well as a winger last year doesn’t mean that’s his position.. let him play Arthur as a winger n let’s see how our so called golden boy performs there? It doesn’t take a genius to know that Arthur won’t perform well as a winger. Why? Because that’s not his natural position.. but then why is Valverde doing that with Coutinho? I’m sick n tired of this..even for Brazil coutinho plays in midfield. Coutinho ain’t going no fucking where

Of course we won't sell him this summer. If we do we are total idiots.
 

Pepe Silvia

Active member
He had some moments of absolute magic against Espanyol. If some of you fail to see his world-class talent, you're hopeless. He lost the ball much less, and almost finished that incredible buildup play with Messi, Suarez etc but overall a really gutsy and courageous performance from Philippe. Even got fired up when the ref called a foul on him. We need to see more of that fire.
 

booge

New member
He had some moments of absolute magic against Espanyol. If some of you fail to see his world-class talent, you're hopeless. He lost the ball much less, and almost finished that incredible buildup play with Messi, Suarez etc but overall a really gutsy and courageous performance from Philippe. Even got fired up when the ref called a foul on him. We need to see more of that fire.

why not play him in all of the la lig agames.

lets face, its the fans that are dreading seeing him in a CL line up. just talking about him dropping out for 4-5 games in CL

He can have all the La liga games, Messi has already won the League for Barca almost by himself bar Demeble rescues.
 

Respekt_III

Anti-everything
Don't know how anyone can claim he was magic... Definitely has improved compared to his recent form but expect much much more from a player in his 'peak'.

The issue with Coutinho is that he cost 160m so he cant just be a decent player against sub par la liga teams he has to be one of the best players in the world for the fee we paid or he should be sold and replaced with someone who can offer the team something more.

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Arizona Scott

New member
Right now he can have a key role in a treble pursuit. Dembele and arthur are limited in the minutes they can play (fatigue and the injury risk that comes with fatigue and these guys get muscle issues) so coutinho will get chances as likely the 1st sub in big matches (or co1st with vidal)

The summer we can deal whether it is best for all whether he stays or goes (and weigh offers) or increasingly tried more in then 8/10 hybrid role. As a winger dembeld is just a whole another level and that pace is needed to compliment messi & suarez (if if you use jovic or griezmann to share suarez duties)

For now we want him to keep getting better and keep showing the improved link up play we have seen for 6 or so weeks.
 
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i_bleed_blaugrana

Senior Member
For me, our MF of Raki-Busi-Arthur can be too redundant out there. It’s good for certain teams but when we are facing a wall like that, it’s clear either Arthur/Raki should go. Coutinho simply needs to play interior; Dembele and Malcom are too good forwards not to be used there.

I think he and Arthur come in and out for each other rest of the season. Hopefully he finds himself in the home stretch, and he’s looked his best deeper for me. Hope Valverde sees this too.
 

ATLBarcaFan

Senior Member
One of his better performances this season, I still think we need more creativity in the midfield and I think he can be the answer. The midfield was terrible on Saturday, Arthur was invisible.
 

booge

New member
He had some moments of absolute magic against Espanyol. If some of you fail to see his world-class talent, you're hopeless. He lost the ball much less, and almost finished that incredible buildup play with Messi, Suarez etc but overall a really gutsy and courageous performance from Philippe. Even got fired up when the ref called a foul on him. We need to see more of that fire.

can't believe what im reading in these last few posts. it's like some paid propaganda is in process.

coutinho is shite. he is an utter shite of a football player. forget nutmeggin a player or a fancy trick here and there.

let's get it down to basics. you can either assist or score when it matters , end of.

all this nonsense about valverde , playing out of position. utter nonsense. you can either do it or you can't. he can't do shit for brazil and he won't do shit for barca. his days are f****** numbered here.

he will be gone very soon. he's always been a limited player. even rakatic is more effective. vidal is more effective , busi is better, dembele is better, messi is better, suarez is better, coutinho is actually one of this shittest player in the squad. he is utter useless. he does not know what he is doing half of the time.

the only positive that can be said is that he is not bad as 'gomes' and never will be as bad as he were.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
According to Sport's front cover page. They claim PSG, Chelsea, and United talked to Coutinho's entourage about a possible move in the summer.
 

cro-man

Active member
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There's a joke among local residents in Castelldefels, a town squashed between the sea and the mountains outside of Barcelona, that Philippe Coutinho's home is a jinx. Fabregas, Vermaelen and Gomes all stayed there as well but never really hit the ground running either. [espn] <a href="https://t.co/197Wj1PwFa">pic.twitter.com/197Wj1PwFa</a></p>— barcacentre (@barcacentre) <a href="https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1112983335821770752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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MTL_Barca

Well-known member
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There's a joke among local residents in Castelldefels, a town squashed between the sea and the mountains outside of Barcelona, that Philippe Coutinho's home is a jinx. Fabregas, Vermaelen and Gomes all stayed there as well but never really hit the ground running either. [espn] <a href="https://t.co/197Wj1PwFa">pic.twitter.com/197Wj1PwFa</a></p>— barcacentre (@barcacentre) <a href="https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1112983335821770752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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Gomes house and Arda shirt number? Damn that's a deadly combo, poor guy never had a chance
 

George_Costanza

Active member
Cesc was still much better than Coutinho. Cesc performed well the first half of each season, disappeared in the second half. Coutinho is bad the whole season.
 

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