9 - Luis Suárez - v1

[gasgas]

Neymar 2nd best player... nice joke.

IKR
thats why stats are better

 

[gasgas]

Neymar 2nd best player... nice joke.

IKR
thats why stats are better

 

[Vlom]

You know what, an equally lol worthy statement would be.
Messi creates all his chances, nodody creates for him.
Look at his highlights and you will find a staggering number of tapins, many of them served by suarez.
Unless you're suggesting that messi scores only from multiple dribbles starting from midfield


What you wrote there is opinion which anyone can have.
It's good to have opinion.
I have mine too.
For opinion to be a fact it must be backed by stats

Erf ... liked you better when you were banned

If you want stats, then we need the stats of how many self-created chances lead to a Messi and Suarez goal, says nothing that Suarez or Alba serves a tap-in to Messi... when in most cases Messi is at the origin of all that.

 

[Vlom]

And you guys are conveniently ignoring the FACT that if Messi didn't get injured, he would have more goals and assists than Suarez... veeery convenient to forget this and at the same time talk about stats stats stats

 

[serghei]

I think he was our best player this season.

 

[Vlom]

Our most consistent one no doubt, our best I don't agree.

May be we're talking about different things (i'm definitely NOT talking about stats), I'm talking about being the X factor for the team winning, and Messi and Neymar have been just that more so than Suarez.

Again, not saying that Suarez is not having an amzing season, he is.

 

[gasgas]

And you guys are conveniently ignoring the FACT that if Messi didn't get injured, he would have more goals and assists than Suarez... veeery convenient to forget this and at the same time talk about stats stats stats

There's a stat for that too
Goals per game
Number of shots per game
Number of key passes per game
Or per minutes.
We can still use stats

 

[Vlom]

I am not talking about freaking stats!!!!!!!

I never ever used stats to explain why Messi is what he is to the team, not about to start now!

Again, why do we even have a MotM thread ? Why is there even votes for the Balon d'Or ? Why do we have opinions and polls or even a forum ? If everything is stats machines can do that shit !

 

[gasgas]

Erf ... liked you better when you were banned

If you want stats, then we need the stats of how many self-created chances lead to a Messi and Suarez goal, says nothing that Suarez or Alba serves a tap-in to Messi... when in most cases Messi is at the origin of all that.

Liked u better when you were mehssi
There are stats for number of dribbles before goal, saw that stat comparing cr7 and messi sometime back.
Depends on what you call self-created chances, even there we can find relevant stats

 

[Vlom]

As I said, typicall CR7 fanboy arguments > stats stats stats

I'm not getting into that, wanna have a real discussion welcome, if you and that jj_xxx guy can't use any other argument than have at it.

 

[gasgas]

I am not talking about freaking stats!!!!!!!

I never ever used stats to explain why Messi is what he is to the team, not about to start now!

Again, why do we even have a MotM thread ? Why is there even votes for the Balon d'Or ? Why do we have opinions and polls or even a forum ? If everything is stats machines can do that shit !

MoTM, ballon dor are all opinion not facts.
Each one has theirs.
Thats why we can disagree CR7 winning a ballon dor in 2012/13
Or suarez missing out on the top 3 last season.
That is opinion.

But saying player x is a better converter than player y, you need to use a star

 

[Vlom]

Again, as I said, you're talking about something else, we're NOT talking about best "converter".

 

[bismp]

Everyone can have his/her opinion,but it is just wrong to dismiss the MotM thread as Messi fanboy-ism.I personally count the votes,and you may not believe me,but there are as many,if not more,Suarez fanboys as Messi fanboys.At many matches,everyone votes for X player as their best,but there are some members who will vote for Suarez no matter what.

And let's say that Messi gains more points than he deserves.The reality is that Messi is closer to having double the points of Suarez,than being equal to him.Some people's perception is clouded by:
A)Suarez scoring more goals,while Messi doesn't care and in the meanwhile does all the playmaking
B)Messi not being GOAT this year

 

[gasgas]

As I said, typicall CR7 fanboy arguments > stats stats stats

I'm not getting into that, wanna have a real discussion welcome, if you and that jj_xxx guy can't use any other argument than have at it.

Stats dont favor cr7.
Look at whoscored.
They use stats to rate players and messi is ahead of say cristiano despite having fewer goals

 

[Vlom]

A)Suarez scoring more goals,while Messi doesn't care and in the meanwhile does all the playmaking
B)Messi not being GOAT this year

Messi is offering his pens this season for fucks sake, and was out for 2 months, using the stats argument is already ridiculous usually it is even more so now!

They're dismissing the MotM votes just because it suits them.