9 - Luis Suárez - v1

[André]

Search on google what open goal means, dude. Open fucking goal, not a miss when he has 3 players around him + GK in a good position. I remember how people here were complaining about Alexis because he was getting 3-4 good chances but only scored 1 goal. Suarez is not even getting those chances, he barely gets 1 per game. Jesus, be patient with him. You did the same with Alexis, and Neymar last seaon. I'm sick of some people here.

Between Suarez, Alexis and Neymar, you should know better and be more patient with Luis Suarez. He had 4 months off, he's in a new team in a new and different league. And after 12-13 games he's already a flop according to some geniuses.

 

[linetty]

I didnt say he's a flop, but he's missing way too many clear cut chances. I like his overall game but he's a striker and should score these or at least get a shot on goal in these situations...

 

[Zangash]

Search on google what open goal means, dude. Open fucking goal, not a miss when he has 3 players around him + GK in a good position. I remember how people here were complaining about Alexis because he was getting 3-4 good chances but only scored 1 goal. Suarez is not even getting those chances, he barely gets 1 per game. Jesus, be patient with him. You did the same with Alexis, and Neymar last seaon. I'm sick of some people here.

Between Suarez, Alexis and Neymar, you should know better and be more patient with Luis Suarez. He had 4 months off, he's in a new team in a new and different league. And after 12-13 games he's already a flop according to some geniuses.

He's been back since freaking October. He's had October, November, and December to improve his game but he hasn't improved even the slightest bit. For a player that costed 80-90m that is horrible.

And no, he gets way more than 1 chance to score per game. I suppose if you ignore all the moments where he poorly controls a ball into a defender when he could be putting himself in on goal that shrinks the number down significantly, but he's still missing more than just 1 per game.

And in 12-13 games he's scored two goals. One against some shit team in the CL group stages and another against PSG, which video shows Messi allowed him to have to boost his confidence. If any attacker on our team, B team or otherwise, went that long without scoring he'd be lynched by everyone even if they're coming up from the freaking Segunda so I don't see why the highest goal scoring player in the world last season shouldn't be held to not his usual standards, but any standards at all purely because he's playing for a new team. He faced a suspension longer than this one last season and came back with the same quality for Liverpool that he had prior to his suspension and despite missing the first 8 or so games of the season still matched Ronaldo's goal tally without any penalties.

So far he has been a massive disappointment. There's no getting around that. The tactics and his teammates don't have anything to do with that. If his name wasn't Suarez and if he didn't cost 80m and if Sandro was 25 the person starting up front with Messi and Neymar would be different.

 

[hamad138]

Search on google what open goal means, dude. Open fucking goal, not a miss when he has 3 players around him + GK in a good position. I remember how people here were complaining about Alexis because he was getting 3-4 good chances but only scored 1 goal. Suarez is not even getting those chances, he barely gets 1 per game. Jesus, be patient with him. You did the same with Alexis, and Neymar last seaon. I'm sick of some people here.

Between Suarez, Alexis and Neymar, you should know better and be more patient with Luis Suarez. He had 4 months off, he's in a new team in a new and different league. And after 12-13 games he's already a flop according to some geniuses.

80.000.000 Euro

hes playing same Level as Munir, which is quite something

 

[Hamzah]

he is much better than munir. his overall play is good, who would you have bought?

 

[Andrew M]

I am keeping the faith. He is missing chances, though.

 

[Lionel Messi]

80.000.000 Euro

hes playing same Level as Munir, which is quite something

Over exaggerating much? been miles ahead of Munir who i feel has been incredibly over hyped by some people and contributes NOTHING to the first team atm.

His goals will come, he is used to playing at a much quicker pace than how we play now, the amount of times I see him calling for a long pass while he is trying to get in behind on the last line defense is hilarious.. our midfield keeps on passing the ball sideways and 90% of the time ignores him, he is a master of controlling those long passes and the likes of Coutinho and Gerrard fed him with those balls all season. Either he has to adapt or our midfield has to adapt to his runs and movement.

Also why pay 80m if we aren't even utilizing the guy's full potential? He banged in so many free kicks last season yet Xavi who rarely scores them takes the right footed ones? Striking a dead ball is one of his best assets. One of the best in the world when it comes to direct free kicks.

He has also not missed any "open goals" that's just people going full meltdown mode.

 

[Flavia]

Over exaggerating much? been miles ahead of Munir who i feel has been incredibly over hyped by some people and contributes NOTHING to the first team atm.

His goals will come, he is used to playing at a much quicker pace than how we play now, the amount of times I see him calling for a long pass while he is trying to get in behind on the last line defense is hilarious.. our midfield keeps on passing the ball sideways and 90% of the time ignores him, he is a master of controlling those long passes and the likes of Coutinho and Gerrard fed him with those balls all season. Either he has to adapt or our midfield has to adapt to his runs and movement.

Also why pay 80m if we aren't even utilizing the guy's full potential? He banged in so many free kicks last season yet Xavi who rarely scores them takes the right footed ones? Striking a dead ball is one of his best assets. One of the best in the world when it comes to direct free kicks.

He has also not missed any "open goals" that's just people going full meltdown mode.

He did miss some sitters, that a player of his caliber shouldn't.

 

[Hamzah]

the part about not reading his runs is something i totally agree with, happened to david villa in later times too.

 

[André]

He missed easy chances but not open goals.

 

[Lionel Messi]

He did miss some sitters, that a player of his caliber shouldn't.

Not denying that just saying none of them were "open goals", but he doesn't get enough chances in a game like Messi and Neymar do.. even in the games we win 5-0/6-0. That puts a lot more pressure on a player and when he does get a chance could lead to him screwing up under pressure as he might feel he won't get another. You can see in his play he really wants to impress.

Been out 4 months, new league and completely opposite system of what he's used to compared to Liverpool and the NT where he gets the ball more and quicker. Neymar took a season, Alexis took two seasons. I don't think Suarez will take that long due to his experience, we will start seeing the best of him in this half of the season IMO but the rest of the team needs to understand his play style and try to adjust to him, we paid 80m for how he played with Liverpool last season so we should try to get him into similar positions etc to get the best out of him.

The current system we play has already proven to not be reliable enough this season so changes to accommodate Suarez wouldn't hurt at all. Messi and Neymar will play incredibly well in any system and the midfield has been shocking so a change in system wouldn't make it any worse.

 

[Flavia]

Not denying that just saying none of them were "open goals", but he doesn't get enough chances in a game like Messi and Neymar do.. even in the games we win 5-0/6-0. That puts a lot more pressure on a player and when he does get a chance could lead to him screwing up under pressure as he might feel he won't get another. You can see in his play he really wants to impress.

Been out 4 months, new league and completely opposite system of what he's used to compared to Liverpool and the NT where he gets the ball more and quicker. Neymar took a season, Alexis took two seasons. I don't think Suarez will take that long due to his experience, we will start seeing the best of him in this half of the season IMO but the rest of the team needs to understand his play style and try to adjust to him, we paid 80m for how he played with Liverpool last season so we should try to get him into similar positions etc to get the best out of him.

The current system we play has already proven to not be reliable enough this season so changes to accommodate Suarez wouldn't hurt at all. Messi and Neymar will play incredibly well in any system and the midfield has been shocking so a change in system wouldn't make it any worse.

Right now I think he was a bad choice. We really didn't need another goalscorer, having Messi and Neymar. They should had tried to keep Alexis, or if he was really adamand on leaving, get Reus.
Reus would had been a better fit, imo. But he doesn't have that big of a name. And that's what a lack of a sporting project does. You sign big names and hope they'll win games for you. Reus was cheaper, and there'd be money left to get a good cb instead of vermaelen, and another top cm, also letting Xavi go.

But that ship has sailed... somehow I hope Suarez finds his place and form with us.

 

[serghei]

And that's what a lack of a sporting project does. You sign big names and hope they'll win games for you.

Sort of like Real Madrid, right? Except they got smarter and we got dummer.

 

[Sumlit]

Right now I think he was a bad choice. We really didn't need another goalscorer, having Messi and Neymar. They should had tried to keep Alexis, or if he was really adamand on leaving, get Reus.
Reus would had been a better fit, imo. But he doesn't have that big of a name. And that's what a lack of a sporting project does. You sign big names and hope they'll win games for you. Reus was cheaper, and there'd be money left to get a good cb instead of vermaelen, and another top cm, also letting Xavi go.

But that ship has sailed... somehow I hope Suarez finds his place and form with us.

We definitely needed another goal scorer, don't let hindsight affect your opinion. At the end of last season, Barca was struggling for goals and goal threat that didn't come from Messi. Neymar last season was not a goal threat. Alexis was terrible in UCL and couldn't score outside Camp Nou. Barca were definitely in need of a proven scorer.

Alexis could have been kept, he's a good player that had improved at Barca and was likely to continue to do so, but that doesn't mean the team did not need improved scoring.

We can question the wisdom of spending so much for Suarez, but we're doing this under the situation of his and the team's current struggle to prop our argument, which is unfair. At the time of his purchase, Suarez was the EPL's best player and had almost single handily taken Liverpool to the EPL title.

I still think a lot of what's happening to him is not of his doing. This team is struggling in too many areas to blame lack of production on the players alone. When the entire entity is struggling for the most part, we have to look at the bigger picture.

 

[MagIX]

Right now I think he was a bad choice. We really didn't need another goalscorer, having Messi and Neymar. They should had tried to keep Alexis, or if he was really adamand on leaving, get Reus.
Reus would had been a better fit, imo. But he doesn't have that big of a name. And that's what a lack of a sporting project does. You sign big names and hope they'll win games for you. Reus was cheaper, and there'd be money left to get a good cb instead of vermaelen, and another top cm, also letting Xavi go.

But that ship has sailed... somehow I hope Suarez finds his place and form with us.

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