9 - Robert Lewandowski

JohnN

Senior Member
It isn't because there's at least five strikers would were definitely better.

And it rests on a fucking massive what if hypothetical, in the month of March with the QF stage still to even play.

If you go out before the final, what then? And I wouldn't be surprised if that happens to be honest.
We most probably don't win the CL this season. Regardless of that, you do realize the Lewa is in the top 10 (I think no. 7) of all time in goals scored, so he already is a top 10 striker.
So an argument of top 5 strikers if he manages another CL with Barca at this age is not a bad argument.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
We most probably don't win the CL this season. Regardless of that, you do realize the Lewa is in the top 10 (I think no. 7) of all time in goals scored, so he already is a top 10 striker.
So an argument of top 5 strikers if he manages another CL with Barca at this age is not a bad argument.
You can't decide who the best strikers ever are simply based on how many goals they have scored.

Lots of better strikers than Lewy have scored fewer goals. We live in an era where goalscoring has exploded. Lots of the guys on these lists played in this era.

He will never be as good as R9, Muller, Van Basten, Romario or Pele (if you consider him a number 9). Plus others.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
You can't decide who the best strikers ever are simply based on how many goals they have scored.

Lots of better strikers than Lewy have scored fewer goals. We live in an era where goalscoring has exploded. Lots of the guys on these lists played in this era.

He will never be as good as R9, Muller, Van Basten, Romario or Pele (if you consider him a number 9). Plus others.
He is a rung below these guys. Those guys you quoted are the best strikers of all-time. Lewa is amongst them but more on the periphery of top10 than firmly inside it.

Legendary striker, just lacks a little on the creative side to be a top5 oat. As you correctly point out there are a lot of goalscorers around in the modern era. His work is more 'replicable' than the very best of all time.

However, being top15 or 20 is still generational and more than enough.
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
This is so fucking funny. The same guys who have been vocally critical of him are now wanking off over him based on one goal. If he has a bad game in the next game they'll be calling him a donkey again.

Like I always say, football fans ate knee-jerk as fuck. At least I stick with what I believe and don't change my mind based on a game or two.
It's endless cycle bro

All we want from him is goals. He can't give good general play, okay. But his finishing needs to be there.

When he delivers a good finish, and in a crucial moment we hope he'll continue to do so.

Then he usually drops off again. Hopefully this cycle ends soon.

All I want from him is not to be wasteful in crucial UCL games ahead. He can lose the ball, get bullied, whatever.. For his age I don't expect him to be perfect
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
You can't decide who the best strikers ever are simply based on how many goals they have scored.

Lots of better strikers than Lewy have scored fewer goals. We live in an era where goalscoring has exploded. Lots of the guys on these lists played in this era.

He will never be as good as R9, Muller, Van Basten, Romario or Pele (if you consider him a number 9). Plus others.
Muller was the quintessential poacher with not a lot to his game though? Van Basten's and R9 had no longevity due to injuries. Pele doesn't belong in this debate.

If you are a striker, you must score goals, unless you are a false 9 and that responsibility is divided among other attacking players. Judging strikers by goals is not the same as judging midfielders by their G+A. Ultimately football is a game where a team that scores the most goals wins and that is the most important skill for a striker.
 

JohnN

Senior Member
You can't decide who the best strikers ever are simply based on how many goals they have scored.

Lots of better strikers than Lewy have scored fewer goals. We live in an era where goalscoring has exploded. Lots of the guys on these lists played in this era.

He will never be as good as R9, Muller, Van Basten, Romario or Pele (if you consider him a number 9). Plus others.
Strikers are mostly ranked by goals scored, so I really don't get the first paragraph. As you can see, you will be hard pressed to find more strikesrs better than him, and throwing Pele in the mix... c' mon..
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
He is a rung below these guys. Those guys you quoted are the best strikers of all-time. Lewa is amongst them but more on the periphery of top10 than firmly inside it.

Legendary striker, just lacks a little on the creative side to be a top5 oat. As you correctly point out there are a lot of goalscorers around in the modern era. His work is more 'replicable' than the very best of all time.

However, being top15 or 20 is still generational and more than enough.
Never disagreed with any of that.

I never disagreed he's in the top 15. My contention is that he was a top 15 striker ever but is a liability now, who can still produce the odd good moment.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
@KingLeo10 @soul24rage I love these records and milestones he keeps breaking/reaching.

Depending on his/our performance in CL it could even be him who wins the BallonDor.

I get the sense that voters will prefer to credit him with one than Yamal or Pedri, who have a lot of time left on the clock.

It is between him and Raphinha most likely in that scenario. It also shouldn't be ruled out that one of the two wins it even if we lose the CL.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Muller was the quintessential poacher with not a lot to his game though? Van Basten's and R9 had no longevity due to injuries. Pele doesn't belong in this debate.

If you are a striker, you must score goals, unless you are a false 9 and that responsibility is divided among other attacking players. Judging strikers by goals is not the same as judging midfielders by their G+A. Ultimately football is a game where a team that scores the most goals wins and that is the most important skill for a striker.
As per your previous post, it's just living in the moment.

it's actually a myth that Muller was just a poacher - he dropped into midfield a fair bit and did defensive work. Don't believe those myths.

Who cares about longevity? R9 and Van Basten were miles more talented than lewy.

You're right, but a striker can facilitate wins in other ways. Look at Firmino - he didn't score goals but he maximised Salah and Mane. Either way, it's too simplistic to rate number 9s by goals scored when some number 9s have much more to their games than others.
 

ForzaBarca

Active member
Yes, I did.

Dortmund were very lucky getting to that final. It was clearly lucky and better teams didn't make it.

Bayern crushed Barca, mainly because they were by far the best team in the Bundesliga. You prove my point.

Name one amazing game Lewy has had in the CL other than the multi-goal game against Real Madrid at Dortmund? I will wait.

You support 'Barcelona and Inter', yet you expect me to take you seriously? Who do you support when they play each other.

Weirdos like you who support multiple teams in multiple leagues are normally under 20, but your'e fucking F0RTY-SEVEN, you freak.

Anyway, you are clearly a moron.
Here you go, 2020, Chelsea - Bayern scores 7 goals in two matches and Lewandowski has a hand in each.

Chelsea - Bayern, 1 goal and 2 assists, result 0:3
Bayern - Chelsea, Lewandowski 2 goals 2 assists - result 4:1

Now get the fuck away from me, you loser, I think most people are fed up with you. You have an overgrown ego, you think you're the Alpha and Omega, but in reality you're a guy with a complex with his nose in the monitor and his other hand under the table.
 

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