Alen Halilović

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Don't trust Croatian press too much

Bojan, I am not sure about this.
Some rumors are just stupid, like when they write about Vrsaljko to Barca and similar.

But this time, ALL media (sport and news media) are talking about this news, for example, a national Tv station:
http://sport.hrt.hr/336761/prvi-transfer-meu-vatrenima-uoci-eura-halilovic-u-valenciji

In English:
Croatian Nt player is just about to put a pen on a Valencia-deal.
A transfer will be worth between 10 and 12M, a person from Halilovic's side who was involved in a transfer said to Croatian papers.

Barcelona and Valencia have already reached an agreement.
Now we are only waiting for Halilovic to agree personal details with Valencia.
Barcelona will have a buy back option for all of the 5 years of his contract.

Anton Maena, a journalist from Gijon says that Abelardo hasn't played Alen in the 2nd part of a season, and because of that Alen doesn't want to continue in Sporting anymore.

Halilovic said last week, to Croatian national news agency that he had a good time in Sporting, but that he now wants to move to some other, stronger club.

In some other papers, it is even said that Alen's manager Zoran Stojadinovic told to Cadena Ser radio that the deal is done and that his player is moving to Valencia.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Any news about how high his buy-back clause will be after every year?


What I've read a week or two ago was that we'll sell him for 7M and then the buy back will be 10, 12 an 15M over the next 3 seasons. If we sell him for 10-12M those numbers will go up and it's very unlikely we'll ever buy him back unless he really develops into a worldclass player.
 
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BBZ8800

Senior Member
Any news about how high his buy-back clause will be after every year?


What I've read a week or two ago was that we'll sell him for 7M and then the buy back will be 10, 12 an 15M over the next 3 seasons. If we sell him for 10-12M those numbers will go up and it's very unlikely we'll ever buy him back unless he really develops into a worldclass player.

Croatian media says that a buy-back will be 12M after 5 years.
It will be the highest amount in this contract.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Any news about how high his buy-back clause will be after every year?


What I've read a week or two ago was that we'll sell him for 7M and then the buy back will be 10, 12 an 15M over the next 3 seasons. If we sell him for 10-12M those numbers will go up and it's very unlikely we'll ever buy him back unless he really develops into a worldclass player.

15M will be the bargain deal for a solid bench player in few years.so even if it happens he could very well comeback
 

Barcaman

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Staff member
If he gets playing time it will be worth it. If Robert knows what he's doing he'll talk to Valencia coach and add a clause just in case they treat him like bench filler as that ugly greasy Emery did to Denis.
 

BarcaJack

Member
After the second half of this season I think Alen should start to think about his future career now. He has perhaps the best close ball control in his age group; therefore he can do a lot of tricks most players would only try. HOWEVER he tends to slow down a bit after this "great moment", opponents are back in the position and he's trapped again and the previous brilliance goes to nothing. If he cannot resolve this issue, he may even find it difficult to play in top 5 teams in La Liga let alone Barcelona.
One idea is that maybe he should learn to play like David Silva instead of Messi.
BTW I don't think Valencia is a good idea. They stack the squad with young talents and do nothing other than hoping one of them turn out good. Perhaps the worst environment for a promising but not fully polished talent.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
He isn't called for the Euro in the end
https://twitter.com/HNS_CFF/status/737721986005237760/photo/1

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Stric

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Very surprised to see him left out of the final squad.

But then again, when you look at some of the young inexperienced players who made the squad, you're reminded why none of this is surprising. Dinamo already made money on Halilović, now they need to do more business.
 

MasChe

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Dinamo already made money on Halilović, now they need to do more business.

That still doesn't explain why is Čop in the squad.
We have Mandžo, Kalinić and Krama and him for one CF position (I doubt we will play with 2 attackers).

And wings : Perišić, Pjaca and ??

That's why Halilović is a must
 

El Flaco

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Has this been a outrageous debate in Croatia about Čop being selected of Haliovic?
 

MasChe

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Has this been a outrageous debate in Croatia about Čop being selected of Haliovic?

well, not an outrageous debate, but generally people are not satisfied. Our NT manager explained his decision this way : "There's a great future ahead of Alen and I think it's better for him to rest and prepare for new challenges. "
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
That still doesn't explain why is Čop in the squad.
We have Mandžo, Kalinić and Krama and him for one CF position (I doubt we will play with 2 attackers).

And wings : Perišić, Pjaca and ??

That's why Halilović is a must

About Cop, theories say that it is about Southern Croatia, so that they get a few players from their area (politics).

On the right side: Pjaca a first choice. Perisic if needed. Srna as a MR if needed and someone else as a RB then.
Rakitic and Kovacic can also play as Mrs or Amrs, Rakitic played a lot of times a few years ago as a Mr in an NT team.
Brozovic can play as a hybrid Mr also, if really needed.
Since Croatia won't play too many matches on Euro, we are covered well even with 2-3 injuries to wingers, imo.
Plus, it seems that all of these players mentioned above are infront of Halil in coach's pecking order, so...

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Has this been a outrageous debate in Croatia about Čop being selected of Haliovic?

Halilovic is a guy whom majority of fans in Croatia either:
1. love and rate as a next Messi or as a very talented young player, a future Croatian NT key player
2. or think that he is an absolute crap of a player (me, for example) and that in any way he shouldn't be nowhere near NT's team

So, comments are usually: why didn't he call Halil? He is awesome.
The answer: because he is a total crap of a player who can't play even in Sporting Gijon.

More or less...

well, not an outrageous debate, but generally people are not satisfied. Our NT manager explained his decision this way : "There's a great future ahead of Alen and I think it's better for him to rest and prepare for new challenges. "

Our federation is corrupted, surely.

But about Halil, there is really a chance that a coach doesn't rate him at all and that he wants totally different players.
Also there are some comments from a coach:
"Ćorić and Rog were preferred to Halilović and Antolić because I assessed the latter two would find it more difficult to handle being fringe players at Euro 2016" - in other words, why bring them if you are not going to play them and you know they would create trouble in the locker room because of it."

It seems that he wouldn't play Halilovic either way nor in the starting 11 nor as a squad player.
And he thinks that Halil would cause troubles then, so he picked guys who won't play but who won't have troubles with sitting on a bench.

On the other hand, my view:
Halilovic was meh in Dinamo Zagreb, Dinamo and Mamic shipped him way too soon and way too easily...
They are always getting much better prices for much weaker players. If they believed that much in Halil (that he is a gem), they would have kept him and sold for 20-30M one day.
The same as how they did with a 23-years old Modric, kept for a few years and sold to Tottenham for 20-25M back in 2008.

Dinamo sold 19-years old Kovacic for fixed 11 Millions to Internazionale.
And the transfer could have go up to 15m with some bonuses.

Then, Dinamo sold young Halil to Barca for a crappy amount of only 2,2 M (fixed amount without additional bonuses).
Imo, if Dinamo thought that Halil is such a gem, there is no way that they would let him go so fast and for peanuts of 2,2 Millions.
It smelled even back then as: take the money and run.

After being shipped way too easily by Dinamo and Mamic:
-- Young NT teams were horrible when he was a key star-player. No end product...
-- In Barca B he was meh in the last Season
-- In Sporting, he started well, but was benched in the 2nd part of a Season
-- now he is sold for a low amount with a buy-back option again
-- Croatian NT team: kicked out after some time, again...

I may be biased around Halil, because I really don't rate him at all, but till now, his whole career has the same pattern:
He comes in a team as a big star, a bright young superstar with awesome technique, who seems as really special and out of this world on a first look.
But very soon, he get benched, get sold or shipped to another team for not too high transfer fee (take the money and run, again imo).
Plus, his end product on the field is always meh, and we get a bunch of shiny moves, but without too much impact on assists, goals, lots of victories to his teams etc...

Honestly, if we forget for a second that Halil plays for Barca (and that we are biased), a guy who can't earn a starting spot in Sporting Gijon really shouldn't play in one decent NT team, like Croatia.

For me, he is still just a guy who resembles on Messi when he runs with the ball, and who is offering some nice tricks (nutmegs, dribbles etc) in every match.
But more or less, this is all what you get from him in this moment.
Some tricks and entertainment.

Nowhere near enough to earn a NT starting 11 or top 15-16 spot, imo.

I am personally having much more faith in young Pjaca:

Makes much bigger impact. Has much better end product.
And his footballing IQ is 5-10 times higher than Halil's.
 
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