I lose i suppose
, TBH I never watched Cesc much at arsenal so I hadn't known of his better goals in the epl.
I lose i suppose
, TBH I never watched Cesc much at arsenal so I hadn't known of his better goals in the epl.
Stric
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Every goal has a bit of luck, as well. Even Messi who is the best finisher ever to set foot on a pitch, doesn't score every time he has the opportunity. You seem to be talking about those two goals as if they were 100% to Iniesta's credit, and 0% to luck or coincidence. The CL semis goal especially was probably more luck than anything else.
The semis one had some luck to do with it cause his kicking posture is really awkward in that one but the wc final was PURE class.
evilhita666
Barçapocalypse NOW!
The WC goal was "lucky" also... It barely touched an opposition player and Iniesta himself has admitted that he was trying to place it more tightly, but he was relieved because he managed to place just well enough in the end...
But yeah, usually goals involve at least a very small percentage of luck depending of the circumstances...
Paganinisrvnge
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Iniesta in form plus contributing a few goals is miles ahead of Ribery, Zlatan, or Suarez.
Kerrybai
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He doesn't score much and often his assist stats can be underwhelming but that's not his main job. His largest contribution is dragging players out of position with his dribbling, almost like a magnet he glides around pulling players towards him and creating space for others. He's easily my second favourite dribbler in football after Messi.
ceefoo
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Luck
1. Events that are beyond control and seem subject to chance; fortune.
*Events that are beyond control. This is the key term.
Q. A player deliberately striking a ball at goal, with the intention of scoring and managing to do so, with a goalkeeper trying to stop it. Is this luck? :eusa_think: I would say, NO.
However, if the ball happens to dribble along the ground and the keeper stoops down to collect the ball and it goes through his hands, between his legs and in to the goal, this THEN can be considered Luck.
Luck is an overused word and too often used as an excuse or get-out imo.
1. Events that are beyond control and seem subject to chance; fortune.
*Events that are beyond control. This is the key term.
Q. A player deliberately striking a ball at goal, with the intention of scoring and managing to do so, with a goalkeeper trying to stop it. Is this luck? :eusa_think: I would say, NO.
However, if the ball happens to dribble along the ground and the keeper stoops down to collect the ball and it goes through his hands, between his legs and in to the goal, this THEN can be considered Luck.
Luck is an overused word and too often used as an excuse or get-out imo.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Any news on the Don?
evilhita666
Barçapocalypse NOW!
He was subbed due to a precaution, he was feeling slight discomfort in his thigh, so Tata decided to play it safe, which I think was the right thing to do...
By the way, brilliant pass for Messi's goal...
By the way, brilliant pass for Messi's goal...
Catorce
Cruijff's Heir
Absolutely stunning. Cesc has more assists, but I don't see him giving passes like that very often. That's exactly what makes him a completely different player compared to Xavi and Iniesta, and is the reason he can't replace them. (ie; to really fit him in, we need a system change)
Superstar85
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My favourite barca player to watch (along with Messi). He isn't very decisve (goals + assists), though he has a habbit of scoring goals when they really matter like in finals or very decisive ties. But his ball control and dribbling skills (which he uses to retain possession) are just insane when he's on form, he was a beast on sunday night against Madrid.
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