Arthur
- Thread starter Jair Ventura
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Arthur did it to himself.
vinni
Member
Serious or not, i like it.
vuji_31
Senior Member
Juve midfield is really shit.
Khedira,Matuidi,Ramsey,Rabiot,Bentacur and Pjanic.This is so bad.
Even Alena would be starter in Juve
We have more quality in midfield, and Arthur not being regular starter will not make much impact for us.
Only problem with pjanic is his age.
But concidering if he plays 3 good season and meanwhile we get some ypung midfielders , and sell rakitic/vidal we are good
Khedira,Matuidi,Ramsey,Rabiot,Bentacur and Pjanic.This is so bad.
Even Alena would be starter in Juve
We have more quality in midfield, and Arthur not being regular starter will not make much impact for us.
Only problem with pjanic is his age.
But concidering if he plays 3 good season and meanwhile we get some ypung midfielders , and sell rakitic/vidal we are good
JamDav1982
Senior Member
If he can stay fit he will be fine under Sarri in the deep role.
Keep jogging about moving ball and taking it off defenders. It suits him.
wisconsincule
Senior Member
Exactly. Before COVID happened Arthur was part of pretty much every users Gala XI.
Outside of BBZ. He hasn’t rated him from the get go.
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
Having him in starting eleven basically means prefer him to Vidal and Rakitic.
Not the highest of praise.
vuji_31
Senior Member
Let's be honest he is really good with ball, but he is jogging most of the match, he is overweight,not ready for serious foootball.
He plays just safe passes, and in 90 precent of matches we are good with any our midfield.
He is really good against pressing teams and that is 2 matches in spain in year.
But look it at other perspective. Now De Jong will have more impact in team, because his game and Arthur has been really simular.
He plays just safe passes, and in 90 precent of matches we are good with any our midfield.
He is really good against pressing teams and that is 2 matches in spain in year.
But look it at other perspective. Now De Jong will have more impact in team, because his game and Arthur has been really simular.
fergus90
Senior Member
Arthur is a solid player and when he arrived it was a breath of fresh air to see a player able to keep the ball under pressure from the opposition press and recycle the ball. Especially after 16/17 and 17/18 with an ageing Iniesta we lost that profile in midfield. Of course Arthur's press resistant naturally grew comparisons to Xavi which to me then created unrealistic expectations of what his level is. Xavi was more conservative in his early career like Arthur which is true, but there was plenty of times he completely dominated a game, e.g Spain vs England 2003. However at that time, a midfielder of his stature and play-style wasn't lauded like it is today before the Pep era so they kind of went under the radar. Arthur has never shown the ability to dictate a game like that.
Arthur has always had solid traits but severely lacked in the creative department, always quite hesitant to play the ball and holding on to it for too long. A midfield 3 of De Jong-Busquets-Arthur is at pedestrian as it gets and it's shown in the games they've started together. In fact the ironic thing is, that when FDJ arrived it highlighted Arthur's weaker traits more as FDJ was able to do many of the things he does.
He has had moments where he's played some great passes, but they don't happen nearly enough. You can bemoan the lack of movement up front, which is a problem but consider Puig the other night playing a ball that penetrated two lines and took out 6 players. Puig also has the natural instinct to play passes like this always trying to progress forward, take risks, Arthur doesn't.
Perhaps had he arrived and we had a coach capable of developing players e.g. Pep, Klopp etc he could of developed this side of his game. Considering he cost virtually nothing in todays market from Gremio with zero European experience, he has on the whole performed well but I don't think losing Arthur is at all catastrophic, just having Pjanic as part of the deal is the only downside to me and not straight cash.
Arthur has always had solid traits but severely lacked in the creative department, always quite hesitant to play the ball and holding on to it for too long. A midfield 3 of De Jong-Busquets-Arthur is at pedestrian as it gets and it's shown in the games they've started together. In fact the ironic thing is, that when FDJ arrived it highlighted Arthur's weaker traits more as FDJ was able to do many of the things he does.
He has had moments where he's played some great passes, but they don't happen nearly enough. You can bemoan the lack of movement up front, which is a problem but consider Puig the other night playing a ball that penetrated two lines and took out 6 players. Puig also has the natural instinct to play passes like this always trying to progress forward, take risks, Arthur doesn't.
Perhaps had he arrived and we had a coach capable of developing players e.g. Pep, Klopp etc he could of developed this side of his game. Considering he cost virtually nothing in todays market from Gremio with zero European experience, he has on the whole performed well but I don't think losing Arthur is at all catastrophic, just having Pjanic as part of the deal is the only downside to me and not straight cash.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
He is overweight.
Stamina issues.
Brazilian lifestyle.
Injured a lot.
Not too motivated.
There is a high chance that his best days are behind him and he will just move to weaker and weaker clubs until he'll finally move to Roma, Russian league or back to Brasil.
You won't see a movie where Arthur will turn into a superstar with his mentality and his set of skills.
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