Barca Transfers and Rumors

[JamDav1982]

Sell Frnkie for 120m and do what to improve the team?

Most likely he will take the 12m or whatever is left on salary and then had probably 40m odd left on his fee so not looking at 120m to spend even if allowed it all.

Would be selling one of the players that is crucial to way the team have played to go top of league and be in line for potential domestic treble and sign who?

It would be madness to sell him ahead of any of the 220m odd of signings.

 

[serghei]

The only players that need to get sold for the good of the team are the ones that perform poorly. Which won't be bringing much in terms of funds, but would clear wage space. But doubt they will want to leave anyway because Barca is a brilliant club to play at. So by default the squad, in terms of sales, should see minimum change, because the only players that will draw substantial offers are our best players. The rest aren't very good and nobody will want to pay big bucks for them.

And obviously our best players should be kept because they are an important part of the team.

That's what it happens when you have a major difference between top 12-13 players and the rest. The only players who can be sold for a big sum are your starters and main 2-3 options from the bench. Rest are filler nobody wants.

 

[JamDav1982]

The only players that need to get sold for the good of the team are the ones that perform poorly. Which won't be bringing much in terms of funds, but would clear wage space. But doubt they will want to leave anyway because Barca is a brilliant club to play at. So by default the squad in terms of sales, should see minimum change, because the only players that will draw substantial offers are our best players. And those should obviously be kept because they are an important part of the team.

Any of the attacking players could be sold for good of team bar Dembele and also having three CBs who can get a high fee would be solution long before FDJ.

 

[serghei]

Any of the attacking players could be sold for good of team bar Dembele and also having three CBs who can get a high fee would be solution long before FDJ.

Completely disagree. Unless you want your whole season to go down the shitter when Dembele gets injured. Like what happened this season, if we didn't have Raphinha to pour some majorly key goals and assists just in time. Dembele out, Lewa out of form and injured/suspended too, who would've scored the goals if not for Raphinha? Ansu and Fati? .

Same way for CBs, 3 top CBs are a must. Don't ever want to see Garcia in a key game again.

Dembele, Raphinha stay put, you continue to also play them simultaneously, Ferret and Ansu should be sold but the way they are playing they wouldn't bring much so... no sure it's wise to sell now...

Basically leaves you with Abde back and that Roque Brazilian as only signings in attack that are feasible. Maybe loan Ansu to get rid of his high wage.

 

[Porque]

Casemiro is an oldie. Really not a similar case with De Jong.

Fair point.

I do think Frenkie is a great system player but nothing we would extraordinarily miss though. If Chelsea or someone give us a big offer then coupled with Busquets and then Alba the year later can go along way towards detoxing our salary mass.

Obviously if we can't earmark a potential 11 option for a 1/3 of the sale price (so 40m ish) then it is a bad sale. Likewise if we blew the money like the Neymar money for lack of having contingency.

 

[JamDav1982]

Completely disagree. Unless you want your whole season to go down the shitter when Dembele gets injured. Like what happened this season. Same way for CBs, 3 top CBs are a must. Don't ever want to see Garcia in a key game again.

No the CBs would be with the idea of bringing in likes of Ndicka for free if sold one not leaving squad as is.

Same with Dembele. Raphinha is not worth 70m as a back up and despite his goals/assists team still struggling as lacks what Dembele brings.. see United game or how much struggled away to Real to get forward.

Again..can look at cheaper and more like minded back ups out wide.

 

[serghei]

No the CBs would be with the idea of bringing in likes of Ndicka for free if sold one not leaving squad as is.

Same with Dembele. Raphinha is not worth 70m as a back up and despite his goals/assists team still struggling as lacks what Dembele brings.. see United game or how much struggled away to Real to get forward.

Again..can look at cheaper and more like minded back ups out wide.

I don't known who this Ndicka is but all of our 3 CBs are fairly young and performed well this season. Move Garcia for Ndicka sure. But I'm very satisfied with all of Araujo, Kounde and Christensen.

Can't sell Raphinha and remain basically with a single top winger in the whole squad, who also happens to be injury prone. Makes no sense. Only way we should be selling Raphinha is if we have a deal for a top class LW in place and need the money to fund it.

But looking at the previous LW signing in Ferran Torres, not particularly confident we'll spend the money well. I'd for sure keep Raphinha and bring back Abde. Showed some positive signgs.

 

[JamDav1982]

I don't known who this Ndicka is but all of our 3 CBs are fairly young and performed well this season. Move Garcia for Ndicka sure. But I'm very satisfied with all of Araujo, Kounde and Christensen.

Can't sell Raphinha and remain basically with a single top winger in the whole squad, who also happens to be injury prone. Makes no sense. Only way we should be selling Raphinha is if we have a deal for a top class LW in place and need the money.

But looking at the previous LW signing in Ferran Torres, not particularly confident we'll spend the money well. I'd for sure keep Raphinha.

It is not about the CBs playing poorly it is about balance of squad and if have areas where lack more than others.

Raphinha is a back up and can see what Barca lack when Dembele not there. As said see Man Utd away where lack the pace/dribbling v better sides.

Raphinha is not a 'top winger' either.

Fair changed your tune from Man U game when it was all about how much Dembele was missed and now he is a 'top winger' who has meant Dembele not missed.

Raphinha is a back up as will be one of the CBs and to balance squad better that is type of areas they will need to look at.

Raphinha sold for a better DM for example makes sense then look for cheaper wide player that can offer more on outside and offers some of the threat have when Dembele missing.

 

[serghei]

Raphinha needed to step up and he did. Of course I will note when a player is providing impact. Raphinha has been assisting and scoring at a very good rate since Dembele injury. Involved in the majority of our goals.

Without him, we would've found it almost impossible to keep picking up so many points. With who? Ferret and Ansu.

Without Pedri, without Dembele, without Lewandowski doing his part, it's Raphinha that has carried the attack.

 

[JamDav1982]

Raphinha needed to step up and he did. Of course I will note when a player is providing impact. Raphinha has been assisting and scoring at a very good rate since Dembele injury. Involved in the majority of our goals.

Without him, we would've found it almost impossible to keep picking up so many points. With who? Ferret and Ansu.

Without Pedri, without Dembele, without Lewandowski doing his part, it's Raphinha that has carried the attack.

Raphinha didnt step up v Man Utd away and team clearly lacked a winger in that game.

Same away to Real. He was awful and allowed both to pressure higher up park with less going other way.

Raphinha been decent but more individual moments and structure of team suffers a lot when Barca have one touchline winger and no one who can at all try to replicate what Dembele does.

Its not about Raphinha being shit but improving squad to compete better at top level and he is one of the players who could probably get good offer for and a back up.

To be fair Raphinha would be much better at that wide AM role Gavi plays but on other side and Dembele as the LW but dont have an attacking RB and Xavi will never drop Gavi for him.

 

[serghei]

lol.

Vs United he assisted and scored the only 2 goals of ours in the tie except for the penalty.

Away to Real we defended the whole game, not much offensive being done.

In La Liga, scored vs Betis (2-1), assisted vs Getafe the only goal, scored vs Valencia the only goal, scored vs Bilbao the only goal, scored, assisted and participated in the Sevilla 3-0 win. The man is tied to almost every goal in every win from the last 5-6 games.

What are you talking about?

 

[JamDav1982]

lol.

Vs United he assisted and scored the only 2 goals of ours in the tie.

Away to Real we defended the whole game, not much offensive being done.

In La Liga, scored vs Betis (2-1), assisted vs Getafe the only goal, scored vs Valencia the only goal, scored vs Bilbao the only goal, scored, assisted and participated in the Sevilla 3-0 win. The man is tied to almost every goal in every win from the last 5-6 games.

What are you talking about?

Awway to United you were not bemoaning how much team missed Dembele?

Yes he scored v United when his crosss went in and was ok that first leg.

Lets reviist what you said about how much Dembele was missed v United should we?

Again... Raphinha not been shit but team is suffering without Dembele and that pace and Raphinha will be a back up when he is back and an expensive one.

 

[serghei]

Awway to United you were not bemoaning how much team missed Dembele?

Yes he scored v United when his crosss went in and was ok that first leg.

Lets reviist what you said about how much Dembele was missed v United should we?

So what, I'm not saying he is better than Dembele. Of course Dembele has some skills Raphinha doesn't, and viceversa.

Only you find contradictions everywhere where there are none.

Raphinha and Dembele are by a mile our best wingers. Both should be kept. Pretty simple.

You want to sell some wingers, Ferran Torres and Ansu are there. If someone likes them and pays up, by all means let's sell.

 

[JamDav1982]

So what, I'm not saying he is better than Dembele. Of course Dembele has some skills Raphinha doesn't, and viceversa.

So Dembele was missed and that was your rant after United as Raphinha could not be same threat from deep as he is to be left 1v1.

The fact he has the goals and assists is part of the reason could get decent fee for him and he has had good moments but not worth 70m as a back up for me.. assuming that would be price could get.

 

[JamDav1982]

So what, I'm not saying he is better than Dembele. Of course Dembele has some skills Raphinha doesn't, and viceversa.

Only you find contradictions everywhere where there are none.

Raphinha and Dembele are by a mile our best wingers. Both should be kept. Pretty simple.

You want to sell some wingers, Ferran Torres and Ansu are there. If someone likes them and pays up, by all means let's sell.

I said any of the attacking players could be sold other than Dembele.. you are one that focused on Raphinha.

You want 80m for Fati anyway. Never happening.

Raphinha is not as good as Dembele and he plays same side. While could get highest fee for of ones to sell.