Barca Transfers and Rumors

[Porque]

That's because you don't know about JamDav's theory of economic relativity.

There seems to be some liquidity issues right now, or that we can't get loans on favourable interest rates like Madrid from the central banks.

But in general the FFP rules in black and white terms should work close to how he suggested.

 

[serghei]

There seems to be some liquidity issues right now, or that we can't get loans on favourable interest rates like Madrid from the central banks.

Yeah, having some liquidity issues in that we could only spend 3m on players in the summer.

 

[JamDav1982]

That's because you don't know about JamDav's theory of economic relativity.

Nah you just have zero idea how FFP worked and speak shite about 100m up front etc.

Barca couldnt afford Onana on FFP would be the issue.

Try again.

Barca in summer spent same on squad costs as Real did for Bellingham.. and its not cash issues.

Clueless folk still dont get it.

'But but Barca couldnt pay 100m upfront'

Usuals.

 

[serghei]

FFP is after you signed the player. It's registering him. Not buying him.

Like amortization vs acquisition price.

A 400 dollars boot can last you 10 years and it's a great 40 dollars / year cost.

It still costs you 400 dollars to buy it. Not 40. If you don't have 400, you don't get the 400 boot, you get a cheapo.

 

[Porque]

Yeah, having some liquidity issues in that we could only spend 3m on players in the summer.

Well we just spend 40m on Roque.

In the summer Barca B spent 4.5m too.

So in theory there was capital to manoeuvre with over the course of the season.

 

[JamDav1982]

You have zero clue.

The cost of FFP is over the current season and next.

Barca are paying more on books last summer than Real did for Bellingham.

That is the restrictions not cash.

Keep clueless nonsense as if 'Barca could only spend 3m'.

Utter drivel.

 

[JamDav1982]

Well we just spend 40m on Roque.

In the summer Barca B spent 4.5m too.

So in theory there was capital to manoeuvre with over the course of the season.

Of course there is.. Roque would not have been signed if Gavi had not got injured.

Cash is not the issue it is FFP rules and space allowed.

Barca themselves have said this and comparing the leeway would have to spend if in other leagues.

Serghie has so little clue he thinks fees are paid up front.

 

[serghei]

That is the restrictions not cash.

Keep clueless nonsense as if 'Barca could only spend 3m'.

Utter drivel.

Says who? JamDav?

 

[JamDav1982]

Says who? JamDav?

Aye JamDav and Barca and the league rules.

Serghie says 'Barca cant afford to pay 100m upfront and only spent 3m'.

Usual cluless drivel.

 

[serghei]

Well we just spend 40m on Roque.

In the summer Barca B spent 4.5m too.

So in theory there was capital to manoeuvre with over the course of the season.

That's because, like with Raphinha, the club worked the players through agents, got them to only want Barca move, and their clubs had no choice but to probably agree on the payment plan Barca proposed.

That payment plan is probably constructed over time. Almost like a salary for the player.

Say you pay 40m on a player and you divide it in 5-6 payments of 6-7 million at set intervals. We could probably do something like that.

It is obvious to me the club has huge cash flow issues. I imagine now with the Camp Nou works and with the attendance on super-low levels, it's gonna be even worse.

 

[JamDav1982]

Barca have no cash to spend more than 3m in summer is the claim...

Reality Barca are paying by reported salaries.. 18m to Gundo, 9m to Inigo and 3m to Romeu and 3m fee for Romeu.

That is around 33m Barca have to pay these players this season... slightly less when amortize down Romeu fee.

What they paying them in if not cash? Monopoly money?

That is all before sign Roque for even more on top.

 

[serghei]

Dude, you're not making any sense.

Salary is one thing. Money for signings are another. Barca can pay salaries over the season, they just don't have some extra 100-150m in the club to make signings with them. Those kinds of money are needed almost every summer until the squad is competitive.

You pay a big salary anyway. Transfer fees to clubs are extra. They add to the money for salaries.

 

[JamDav1982]

Dude, you're not making any sense.

Salary is one thing. Money for signings are another. Barca can pay salaries over the season, they just don't have some extra 100-150m in the club to make signings with them. Those kinds of money are needed almost every summer until the squad is competitive.

You pay a big salary anyway. Transfer fees to clubs are extra. They add to the money for salaries.

Nah making perfect sense...

The cash out is the same if fees or salary.

Again... Real will be paying the Bellingham fee over a number of years and not in one installment.

Lets say 5 years and not even 6 to match the contract and before any bonuses.

That would be giving them until end of season 20m to Dortmund in cash with Bellingham said to be on 14m.

That is 34m in cash this season for Bellingham..... while Barca paying 33m odd in cash for salaries before Roque signed.

You really have no idea.

Barca didnt just suddenly find cash down the sofa to take in Roque in January.. it was because Gavi got injured and made space in FFP.

FFP is the restrictions for Barca not cash.

Edit: Just checked.. Barcas cash reserves were over 300m at end of last season...

 

[serghei]

You really have no idea.

Barca didnt just suddenly find cash down the sofa to take in Roque in January.. it was because Gavi got injured and made space in FFP.

FFP is the restrictions for Barca not cash.

You make it sound as if Barca have money to buy super-expensive players... but those La Liga assholes just don't let us register them because FFP restrictions.

This makes no sense. FFP restrictions are in place because Barca's revenue collapsed and couldn't cover the bloated expenses. Not to mention the huge debt that has to be repaid.

You really think Barca are purposefully buying old players on their last legs instead of expensive players in their prime if not for lack of funds? Use your logic.

 

[JamDav1982]

The cash reserves last summer were over 300m.

They had no issue paying 34m for Bellingham in cash across seasons as dont with the players signed... saying 'can pay across season on salaries' has absolutely no relevance.

The issue is FFP and Barca spent the same on those players more or less on FFP as Real are on Bellingham.

Paid out more cash per season for likes of Lewa than Real do for Bellingham also despite the claim one is a 50m player and other 100m and 100m not possible.

It makes perfect sense for anyone with a clue.

Dont you get the issue is Barca saying they have the ability to spend more but cant due to FFP? It is NOT a cash issue currently.

It is not even Bellingham as the example it is to show that Barca could in terms of cash paid a lot more than did and spent the same as Real did for Bellingham... he was moving there not Barca.

Even if player had a clause they could pay it and increase borrowing paid back across the contract.... they could well do that for likes of Zubimendi to protect the cash flow or until sell other players to cover it.