Champions League

serghei

Senior Member
Start the thread. Let the Forum D'Amigos rise again from the ashes.

Ohooo Forum de Amigos would be in full swing with Guardiola as manager. Except we'd be supporting the creator of the best team of all time, not some Bilbao manager with a predominant nose.
 

Morten

Senior Member
Please do. At least someone who has ideas, courageous enough to try new things in important games and has tremendous trust in his youth even in important games[/QUOTE]

I dont know for sure it this is true or not, but i do know he spends a shit ton of money at City, so does he really trust the youth that much anymore?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Please do. At least someone who has ideas, courageous enough to try new things in important games and has tremendous trust in his youth even in important games

Peps trust in youth is massively overplayed.

Four years at City and what young players has he brought through system?

Foden who didnt play tonight and Garcia who Pep is making 4th choice as soon as market opens?
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Also Atletico and Juve are out, who are more ?physical? yet don?t have a CL between them in how many years. Logic is all over the place with that one.

My idea is not to be a physical team, but to be:
1. technical team
2. physical team
3. attack in 3 ways: possession, counters, crosses
4. have captains
5. have players who are not choirboys

If you have only physique without technical magic=you'll lose.
if you have only technique=you'll lose.
If you'll attack in only 1-2 ways=you'll usually lose.
If your team are mental midgets, you'll lose inspite of technique and physique.

Pep's team:
1. not that much physiue
2. short attackers
3. playing without crosses compared to Bayern and RM (tall Cfs)
4. mental midgets
5. who are his captains and leaders?

Juve and Atletico lack technique.

Barca has enough of technique.
We need technique paired with physique and leaders+players who are not scared.
 

kattanib

Well-known member
Peps trust in youth is massively overplayed.

Pique
Busquets
Pedro
Iniesta
Foden
Garcia
Playing Jefferen as a RB back in the days

I haven?t watched Peps teams other than Barca to be honest but he has put a lot of faith on the above players and probably brought the beat version out of them. Iniesta was a frustrating youngster who misses easy balls in Rijkaards days, then Pep played him in Ronaldinho spot and soon enough we all forgot about Ronaldinho
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Pique
Busquets
Pedro
Iniesta
Foden
Garcia
Playing Jefferen as a RB back in the days

I haven?t watched Peps teams other than Barca to be honest but he has put a lot of faith on the above players and probably brought the beat version out of them. Iniesta was a frustrating youngster who misses easy balls in Rijkaards days, then Pep played him Ronaldinho spot and soon enough we all forgot about Ronaldinho

All those players were good enough and that is why Pep played them and that was also over ten years ago in the Barca players.

Foden and Garcia have not had any massive trust put in them and that is two in four years at City where players are leaving as not seeing a route to first team.
 

BADGERBHOY

Senior Member
As I have wrote today, in a simplified way, imagine that you have 3 ways of scoring goals:
1. after possession/shortpasses around the box
2. counters (from pacey forwards)
3. from crosses/headers

If you play Jesus and Sterling, you can't do a no3.
So, you have only 2 weapons.

Pep is always intentionally sacrifying one attacking weapon (crosses and headers) for possession and counters.

Now go and analyze RM and Bayern.
They always have 3 attacking weapons.
And crosses and headers are especially useful when nothing else works (late in the game).
How many times CR7 and Ramos scored in the 93rd minute?
Minute 93 is not the moment for possession and TikiTaka around the box, it's a moment for gambling and desperate crosses to create a havoc in the box.

But hey, Pep doesn't need crosses.
Since his teams are doing just fine with possession and counters.
7 CL seasons after Barca, 7 KOs.
With some really admirable defeats like against Monaco, Lyon and similar.
He is not even losing to Bayern or RM.
He just lost to the 7th placed team from the farmers ligue who had 11 wins, 7 draws and 10 defeats in a farmer's league.

So, don't ever change Pep.
You are doing it perfectly good.
Why changing anything, I mean, it worked in 2011, lol.

Moussaaaaaaaaaaaa

Maybe he'll get sacked and we can get him back :cheers:
 
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mc_lovin

Senior Member
My idea is not to be a physical team, but to be:
1. technical team
2. physical team
3. attack in 3 ways: possession, counters, crosses
4. have captains
5. have players who are not choirboys

If you have only physique without technical magic=you'll lose.
if you have only technique=you'll lose.
If you'll attack in only 1-2 ways=you'll usually lose.
If your team are mental midgets, you'll lose inspite of technique and physique.

Pep's team:
1. not that much physiue
2. short attackers
3. playing without crosses compared to Bayern and RM (tall Cfs)
4. mental midgets
5. who are his captains and leaders?

Juve and Atletico lack technique.

Barca has enough of technique.
We need technique paired with physique and leaders+players who are not scared.

Dude, you offer no freaking solutions. You will hardly find these players, be realistic. You accuse us of being unrealistic, but sometimes you have to compromise. You rarely find a combination of technique, physique and leadership in one player.

And what would you think of Puig- Physical DM - Frenkie in midfield for example? Choirboy setup because of Puig? Or would that midfield be a good combination of physique and technique?
 

Vilarrubi

New member
My idea is not to be a physical team, but to be:
1. technical team
2. physical team
3. attack in 3 ways: possession, counters, crosses
4. have captains
5. have players who are not choirboys

If you have only physique without technical magic=you'll lose.
if you have only technique=you'll lose.
If you'll attack in only 1-2 ways=you'll usually lose.
If your team are mental midgets, you'll lose inspite of technique and physique.

Pep's team:
1. not that much physiue
2. short attackers
3. playing without crosses compared to Bayern and RM (tall Cfs)
4. mental midgets
5. who are his captains and leaders?

Juve and Atletico lack technique.

Barca has enough of technique.
We need technique paired with physique and leaders+players who are not scared.

That’s fair enough. Probably what everyone agrees on.

Actually I‘d argue we lack technique now. Tactically shocking and the quality was so poor, couldn’t pass out of the back to save our lives. And most games were relying on Messi to create and pull something out of the bag, just a terrible set up all round.
 
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