Christian Eriksen
- Thread starter Mes que un club
- Start date
Unofficial numbers, but Lewandowski got around 12M when Bayern signed him 6 years ago.
This is just me guessing, but I don't think Eriksen's sign on will be higher than 20M, which is still a lot.
20ME signing bonus + 20-40ME transfer fee + at least 10ME/year salary is a lot of money. We just got desensitized in football and treat it as bargain. If we are not 100% convinced by him we should pass. Im kind of on of the edge between him and Olmo, but would prefer both to Vidal in winter. I really hope something happens, but I get the reservations.
Last edited:
You don't pay that much to a player if you're paying the club a fee as well. Payment is either 20M to Eriksen or 20-40M to Spurs.
Respekt_III
Anti-everything
It's still an incredibly low risk transfer any way you slice it, we'll lose at best 20m on this which is frankly nothing these days.
Wonder what those who think its risky thoughts were about the 3 100+ million transfers..... we lost 80-100m on Coutinho pretty much after 6 months. Right now there are significantly riskier targets eg Neymar transfer.
This and Ziyech are 2 transfer dealings that should of been done by adding quality to the squad for reasonable fees while shifting players beyond their use by date.
instead of adopting the Liverpool model of business we're adopting the Manchester united model. It's what happens when you have businessmen who have no understanding of the sport running the club.
Last edited:
Im glad we didnt go for Ziyech.
Regarding Eriksen: we apparently decided for Olmo, whos roughly as expensive. I think there are good arguments for both and I wont get heated about a decision like that. We will see, I guess theres still a fair chance Eriksen joins us as most top teams arent aggressively pursuing him (or its already been decided behind closed doors).
Regarding Eriksen: we apparently decided for Olmo, whos roughly as expensive. I think there are good arguments for both and I wont get heated about a decision like that. We will see, I guess theres still a fair chance Eriksen joins us as most top teams arent aggressively pursuing him (or its already been decided behind closed doors).
The drop in form for him personally was part of a drop in form for the entire spurs squad who after years with Pochettino were burnt out. They somehow managed to get to the champions league final but domestically they weren't very good at all (3 wins in their last 12). This run continued early on this season. Purely due to the same old faces being there, lack of investment over the years to spruce up the squad and everyone being mentally and physically drained.
If the cost of bringing Eriksen is €40m no one can tell me that's not worth a go considering selling him on for €30m+ would be very easy. Any higher than that amount then yes big questions should be asked and I don't know if I'd bring him for more than that. Also no one ever mentions wages when signing players so I don't like that it's being used to measure the cost of a player specifically in this case alone, it should be factored in to overall cost of course, but be consistent with it.
Eriksen can play across the entire midfield as well as cam or cm. He even has really decent defensive stats.
Anyway lets splash €40m on some unproven player instead. Whatever happens I hope whoever we bring in is quality.
If the cost of bringing Eriksen is €40m no one can tell me that's not worth a go considering selling him on for €30m+ would be very easy. Any higher than that amount then yes big questions should be asked and I don't know if I'd bring him for more than that. Also no one ever mentions wages when signing players so I don't like that it's being used to measure the cost of a player specifically in this case alone, it should be factored in to overall cost of course, but be consistent with it.
Eriksen can play across the entire midfield as well as cam or cm. He even has really decent defensive stats.
Anyway lets splash €40m on some unproven player instead. Whatever happens I hope whoever we bring in is quality.
Andrew M
New member
I live in London and it's a fine city. I was talking about salary.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
About wages, that is a huge part.
People only look at 20 or 40m paid for a transfer fee, while wages are a bigger deal.
Arthur is only at 3,5m Net per year.
Frenkie is at 12m Net.
Dembele is at 13m Net.
Coutinho was at 15-16 iirc.
That means that for 4 years we had to pay:
Arthur: 40m transfer fee, 7m gross per year for wages=68m in total for 4 years od Arthur.
Frenkie: 75m transfer+10m sign on fee+24m gross=181m for 4 years
Dembele: 145m fee+26m gross=249m for 4 years
Coutinho: 165m fee+32m gross=293m for 4 years
For Eriksen, with a 12m Net (Frenkie as a kid is earning 12m Net with 4m bonuses), we would invest:
20m fee+10m sign on fee+12m Net/24m gross
4 years in total=126m invested.
Even if we sell him in 2 years for 15m (if he flops), we would still invest 78m in two years and we would get back 15m for sale.
So, we wouldn't lose only 5-10m on him but more like 63m in two years.
People will reply: but he will return it with his displays.
But what if he fails like Coutinho, Dembele or Arda?
Then he is another 60-70m thrown down the toilet in 2 years.
People only look at 20 or 40m paid for a transfer fee, while wages are a bigger deal.
Arthur is only at 3,5m Net per year.
Frenkie is at 12m Net.
Dembele is at 13m Net.
Coutinho was at 15-16 iirc.
That means that for 4 years we had to pay:
Arthur: 40m transfer fee, 7m gross per year for wages=68m in total for 4 years od Arthur.
Frenkie: 75m transfer+10m sign on fee+24m gross=181m for 4 years
Dembele: 145m fee+26m gross=249m for 4 years
Coutinho: 165m fee+32m gross=293m for 4 years
For Eriksen, with a 12m Net (Frenkie as a kid is earning 12m Net with 4m bonuses), we would invest:
20m fee+10m sign on fee+12m Net/24m gross
4 years in total=126m invested.
Even if we sell him in 2 years for 15m (if he flops), we would still invest 78m in two years and we would get back 15m for sale.
So, we wouldn't lose only 5-10m on him but more like 63m in two years.
People will reply: but he will return it with his displays.
But what if he fails like Coutinho, Dembele or Arda?
Then he is another 60-70m thrown down the toilet in 2 years.
Throwing wild numbers around, new year, same old BBZ. Coming from the guy who brought you Coutinho will be a great addition worth every penny (and yes people are entitled to bring that up if you're shooting down the idea of signing someone for considerably less money). Laughable that we'd only fetch €15m if he didn't play too well. All these signing on fees etc are nothing but speculation so it doesn't enhance anyone's argument to say he would cost x amount.
If total cost of him was €30m (transfer fee + signing fee) and then wages on top of that, it's worth it. If it's A LOT more than that then it probably isn't. Eriksen has created the 3rd most chances in the last decade in the premier league and has the 2nd most assists for the last decade after arriving in 2013. It's not like we're talking of signing a 31 year old washed up guy who previously played well. Just last season 12 assists and 8 goals, hardly a lifetime away.
Finally no one here is saying throw endless amounts of money after him, yet again a false precedent has been created to shoot down the for arguments. If a reasonable financial risk can be taken then we should take it. Not 20m signing fee, or 25m salary etc.
If total cost of him was €30m (transfer fee + signing fee) and then wages on top of that, it's worth it. If it's A LOT more than that then it probably isn't. Eriksen has created the 3rd most chances in the last decade in the premier league and has the 2nd most assists for the last decade after arriving in 2013. It's not like we're talking of signing a 31 year old washed up guy who previously played well. Just last season 12 assists and 8 goals, hardly a lifetime away.
Finally no one here is saying throw endless amounts of money after him, yet again a false precedent has been created to shoot down the for arguments. If a reasonable financial risk can be taken then we should take it. Not 20m signing fee, or 25m salary etc.
Wages are relatively fixed though. It's not a huge investment wage wise to incorporate a player Eriksen since another player most definitely will leave.
Unless the new player makes 3-4 times the player he's replacing, it shouldn't be an issue. We can afford it.
Unless the new player makes 3-4 times the player he's replacing, it shouldn't be an issue. We can afford it.
Sorin
Well-known member
BBZ's credibility took another hit today if his credibility wasn't in the dumpster before.
Last summer he was in favour of buying Rabiot because he was free. He wasn't free of course just like Eriksen wouldn't be quite the biggest bargain now. But suddenly he has a problem with the money we have to pay for Eriksen. Of course I don't have to mention that the difference in quality between these 2 guys is huge. The Frenchman isn't even worthy of licking Eriksens's booths.
Why do I even bother.
Last summer he was in favour of buying Rabiot because he was free. He wasn't free of course just like Eriksen wouldn't be quite the biggest bargain now. But suddenly he has a problem with the money we have to pay for Eriksen. Of course I don't have to mention that the difference in quality between these 2 guys is huge. The Frenchman isn't even worthy of licking Eriksens's booths.
Why do I even bother.
It is a relatively low risk signing given Eriksen's experience and that he comes from the Ajax mold of football. Adaption should be quick. I don't necessarily think he will be that world class midfielder that solves all our midfield problems as a bonafide starter, but he doesn't need to be. All he needs to be is the Vidal squad profile (the rotation guy who scores off the bench and starts games adding offensive output) like Paulinho was before both. While potentially we have a starter ahead of Rakitic or Arthur if he exceeds expectation like Paulinho did in Valverde's eyes.
Vidal cost almost 30m with a initial salary around 8m. Paulinho cost 40m with a similar salary. These type of players are not to make resale out of (although Paulinho surprisingly gave it), but to fulfil a role for a 2-3 seasons on a 4 year contract and be sold when the decline is obvious. If we think about Eriksen as the next in line for this role, then he is a no-brainer.
Plus with Valverde, he needs players he can trust and experience is his key to it. We should of learned that squad options like Willian over Malcom and Eriksen over Olmo are the way to go if we stick with the boring one for longer than the next half season.
Vidal cost almost 30m with a initial salary around 8m. Paulinho cost 40m with a similar salary. These type of players are not to make resale out of (although Paulinho surprisingly gave it), but to fulfil a role for a 2-3 seasons on a 4 year contract and be sold when the decline is obvious. If we think about Eriksen as the next in line for this role, then he is a no-brainer.
Plus with Valverde, he needs players he can trust and experience is his key to it. We should of learned that squad options like Willian over Malcom and Eriksen over Olmo are the way to go if we stick with the boring one for longer than the next half season.
Last edited:
Home of Barca Fans
