Cristian Tello

Alarcón

New member
Disgraceful the way cantera players have been treated since Pep left and while the Thiago screwup was bad enough, Tello's story is even more disconcerting to me as a culé...Someone who fought to come back to a club that initially discarded him only to be marginalized over & over again when he provides an offensive solution that no other player in the squad can...Very strange to see a club like Barcelona kick to the curb one of their own cantera players the way he has been...Cuenca won't be far behind...Very disappointing and an embarrassment for the club

I wanted to say the same but didn't find the right words... poor Tello thought the renewal is a sign that the club has confidence in him but the only reason they renewed his contract was that his buy out clause was too low and they didn't want to lose money on him
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Tello is not good enough. His general play is terrible and far below the rest of the players.

He can only play on the LW and is arguably the 5th best player in that position.

For a while his raw pace and finishing looked like there could be a potentially good player there but his awareness, touch etc has never improved.
 

Cule4life

The Culest
Yeah Tello should not have lashed out like that but we shouldn't forget that respect is earned not just given. Tata's treatment of youth players has been disgraceful and it's no wonder they are pissed. Tello(or adama etc.) may not be the best player in the world but he certainly deserved to play more this season.

What kind of example will this set for the future cantera players? They will run away at the first opportunity instead of being mistreated like this
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Yeah Tello should not have lashed out like that but we shouldn't forget that respect is earned not just given. Tata's treatment of youth players has been disgraceful and it's no wonder they are pissed. Tello(or adama etc.) may not be the best player in the world but he certainly deserved to play more this season.

What kind of example will this set for the future cantera players? They will run away at the first opportunity instead of being mistreated like this

Who would you have taken minutes away from to start Tello more?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Just yesterday itself tello.could have played 30min with Pedro doing nothing on the pitch

Possibly but would that be enough to keep Tello happy? Being the sub of the second choice left winger when he is not playing well.

Effectively he would need Neymar to be out injured and Pedro to be playing poorly before he gets minutes.
 

ebieymjunior

Senior Member
Possibly but would that be enough to keep Tello happy? Being the sub of the second choice left winger when he is not playing well.

Effectively he would need Neymar to be out injured and Pedro to be playing poorly before he gets minutes.

Happened, did not get minutes. Yes, he wasn't really up to it this season, but why promise to give him more playing time when he wanted to go in January, and then not doing so?
 

Behrox

Vice President of FC Barcelona
Happened, did not get minutes. Yes, he wasn't really up to it this season, but why promise to give him more playing time when he wanted to go in January, and then not doing so?
Tata didn't see the forcast for the shitstorm about to hit the club after January
 

Ghost

New member
Disgraceful the way cantera players have been treated since Pep left and while the Thiago screwup was bad enough, Tello's story is even more disconcerting to me as a cul¨¦...Someone who fought to come back to a club that initially discarded him only to be marginalized over & over again when he provides an offensive solution that no other player in the squad can...Very strange to see a club like Barcelona kick to the curb one of their own cantera players the way he has been...Cuenca won't be far behind...Very disappointing and an embarrassment for the club
Great post.
 

Stric

New member
I think many people take the entire homegrown thing the wrong way. Canteranos don't just come knocking at the first team's door already being world class players like the likes of Iniesta or Busquets are now. They are kids with potential, and that potential needs to be recognized, nurtured and given the right circumstances to evolve. The chances that they are given by the first team coach is what makes them or breaks them. If Pep and the guys before him had the same politics in regard to canteranos that Tito and Tata had, I bet anything that our now world famous canteranos like Messi, Iniesta, Busquets etc. wouldn't be the players they are today. It's not that the likes of Montoya and Bartra are that much behind what our now senior players were at their age, it's also that the coach and the chances they're given under particular circumstances don't have the same effect on them. It takes balls and brains for a coach to give a young player a chance ahead of a senior player, but that's part of the job. And the reason why it's not happening anymore is not just about the canterano situation, it's a wider problem that's been happening here for quite a while now.

We don't see players chosen based on merit, but based on their name. When's the last time you saw a Barca player subbed out because he was having a bad game? This is a completely usual thing in football. But it doesn't happen in Barca anymore. Anything that happens here now is automatic. Automatic lineups, automatic substitution choices, automatic substitution timing, nothing that is based on the situation and the performance. This team needs a huge kick in the ass and a system that will use whatever works best for any particular situation. Regardless of whether the name is Busquets or Toure, Montoya or Alves, Fabregas or Roberto, Bartra or Mascherano or whatever else...
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I think many people take the entire homegrown thing the wrong way. Canteranos don't just come knocking at the first team's door already being world class players like the likes of Iniesta or Busquets are now. They are kids with potential, and that potential needs to be recognized, nurtured and given the right circumstances to evolve. The chances that they are given by the first team coach is what makes them or breaks them. If Pep and the guys before him had the same politics in regard to canteranos that Tito and Tata had, I bet anything that our now world famous canteranos like Messi, Iniesta, Busquets etc. wouldn't be the players they are today. It's not that the likes of Montoya and Bartra are that much behind what our now senior players were at their age, it's also that the coach and the chances they're given under particular circumstances don't have the same effect on them. It takes balls and brains for a coach to give a young player a chance ahead of a senior player, but that's part of the job. And the reason why it's not happening anymore is not just about the canterano situation, it's a wider problem that's been happening here for quite a while now.

We don't see players chosen based on merit, but based on their name. When's the last time you saw a Barca player subbed out because he was having a bad game? This is a completely usual thing in football. But it doesn't happen in Barca anymore. Anything that happens here now is automatic. Automatic lineups, automatic substitution choices, automatic substitution timing, nothing that is based on the situation and the performance. This team needs a huge kick in the ass and a system that will use whatever works best for any particular situation. Regardless of whether the name is Busquets or Toure, Montoya or Alves, Fabregas or Roberto, Bartra or Mascherano or whatever else...

Pep only gave the young players minutes who he thought were ready for the first team.

There are four young players in the first team at the club that are at a make or break stage - Tello, Montoya, Batra and Sergi Roberto. I would guess as a group they have played more minutes than ever before this season.

Pep never relied on Fontas and barely relied on Bartra even going as far as to play Busquets and Adriano at CB ahead of him. Not all young players he would give minutes to only those he thought good enough.

Tello has not been good enough and looks well short of Barca standard. I can see full well why they have barely played him.
 

Cule4life

The Culest
I think many people take the entire homegrown thing the wrong way. Canteranos don't just come knocking at the first team's door already being world class players like the likes of Iniesta or Busquets are now. They are kids with potential, and that potential needs to be recognized, nurtured and given the right circumstances to evolve. The chances that they are given by the first team coach is what makes them or breaks them. If Pep and the guys before him had the same politics in regard to canteranos that Tito and Tata had, I bet anything that our now world famous canteranos like Messi, Iniesta, Busquets etc. wouldn't be the players they are today. It's not that the likes of Montoya and Bartra are that much behind what our now senior players were at their age, it's also that the coach and the chances they're given under particular circumstances don't have the same effect on them. It takes balls and brains for a coach to give a young player a chance ahead of a senior player, but that's part of the job. And the reason why it's not happening anymore is not just about the canterano situation, it's a wider problem that's been happening here for quite a while now.

We don't see players chosen based on merit, but based on their name. When's the last time you saw a Barca player subbed out because he was having a bad game? This is a completely usual thing in football. But it doesn't happen in Barca anymore. Anything that happens here now is automatic. Automatic lineups, automatic substitution choices, automatic substitution timing, nothing that is based on the situation and the performance. This team needs a huge kick in the ass and a system that will use whatever works best for any particular situation. Regardless of whether the name is Busquets or Toure, Montoya or Alves, Fabregas or Roberto, Bartra or Mascherano or whatever else...

:worthy:
 

PaulTaylor

New member
Pep only gave the young players minutes who he thought were ready for the first team.

There are four young players in the first team at the club that are at a make or break stage - Tello, Montoya, Batra and Sergi Roberto. I would guess as a group they have played more minutes than ever before this season.

Pep never relied on Fontas and barely relied on Bartra even going as far as to play Busquets and Adriano at CB ahead of him. Not all young players he would give minutes to only those he thought good enough.

Tello has not been good enough and looks well short of Barca standard. I can see full well why they have barely played him.

This season though Bartra has been played a lot but he didn't really have much choice about that with injuries,

Bartra was to young under Pep's team.

IF Tello isn't good enough for the first team then he should of been loaned out in January because surly for the minutes he's played someone from the B team would of been able to do his job
 

XaviMessiGirl

New member
Disgraceful the way cantera players have been treated since Pep left and while the Thiago screwup was bad enough, Tello's story is even more disconcerting to me as a culé...Someone who fought to come back to a club that initially discarded him only to be marginalized over & over again when he provides an offensive solution that no other player in the squad can...Very strange to see a club like Barcelona kick to the curb one of their own cantera players the way he has been...Cuenca won't be far behind...Very disappointing and an embarrassment for the club

This.


I think many people take the entire homegrown thing the wrong way. Canteranos don't just come knocking at the first team's door already being world class players like the likes of Iniesta or Busquets are now. They are kids with potential, and that potential needs to be recognized, nurtured and given the right circumstances to evolve. The chances that they are given by the first team coach is what makes them or breaks them. If Pep and the guys before him had the same politics in regard to canteranos that Tito and Tata had, I bet anything that our now world famous canteranos like Messi, Iniesta, Busquets etc. wouldn't be the players they are today. It's not that the likes of Montoya and Bartra are that much behind what our now senior players were at their age, it's also that the coach and the chances they're given under particular circumstances don't have the same effect on them. It takes balls and brains for a coach to give a young player a chance ahead of a senior player, but that's part of the job. And the reason why it's not happening anymore is not just about the canterano situation, it's a wider problem that's been happening here for quite a while now.

We don't see players chosen based on merit, but based on their name. When's the last time you saw a Barca player subbed out because he was having a bad game? This is a completely usual thing in football. But it doesn't happen in Barca anymore. Anything that happens here now is automatic. Automatic lineups, automatic substitution choices, automatic substitution timing, nothing that is based on the situation and the performance. This team needs a huge kick in the ass and a system that will use whatever works best for any particular situation. Regardless of whether the name is Busquets or Toure, Montoya or Alves, Fabregas or Roberto, Bartra or Mascherano or whatever else...

And this. What is the point of having such a great youth setup in La Masia if we have no intention of using the players that come out of it? To maybe get a few mil (if that) for each one when they get fed up enough to leave?
 

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