Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

Alarcón

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That's your opinion, stats say otherwise. I believe he will eventually become a better dribbler than Ronaldo when he bulks up a bit and stops falling over so easily.. it's not Ronaldo's best trait. But currently he is not.

No, stats don't say otherwise. Stats don't say how much space a player has and that's why they're useless if you can't connect them to the real world. If you think Cristiano is a better dribbler than Neymar, fine, I respect your opinion, but I don't think most people who watch both players will agree with you.
 
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BrianSwan

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No, stats don't say otherwise. Stats don't say how much space a player has and that's why they're useless if you can't connect them to the real world. If you think Cristiano is a better dribbler than Neymar, fine, I respect your opinion, but I don't think most people who watch both players will agree with you.

Even if I conceded that he was not (it's not his best trait anyway, one of Neymar's strongest), he still dominates in every other area right now. So there, your question has been answered.
 
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BrianSwan

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If these are accurate, I cannot express how much I don't care about this shit.
All the time I'm talking in most general sense and people seem to worship these stats like crazy. Many consider Ronaldhino or Maradona
to be the best ever (even some of my Madrid fan friends) and they don't have high scoring sheets.
Let's just take hypothetical situation where you have a player which has ability to shoot the ball so accurate that every shot is at least 60% of the goal and that is his only ability.
Mathematically speaking that player will score at lest 1 or 2 goals in every match. Does that makes him the best footballer?
If math is all there is, then every goal keeper is amazing, because they save far more goals then there are shots placed on the goal.

They don't tell the whole story.. for example Zidane was a genius and Xavi in his prime whilst having assists was more of an orchestrator than a direct stat padder. However, goals ultimately decide games, so if I had a Championship football team and could pick one of the three, I'd select Cristiano over Zidane or Xavi. Same goes for Ronaldo vs Ronaldinho.
 

Ini8

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They don't tell the whole story.. for example Zidane was a genius and Xavi in his prime whilst having assists was more of an orchestrator than a direct stat padder. However, goals ultimately decide games, so if I had a Championship football team and could pick one of the three, I'd select Cristiano over Zidane or Xavi. Same goes for Ronaldo vs Ronaldinho.

Ronaldinho made everyone on his team better - the same can't be said about Cristiano. He got a mediocre Barca back to being the very best. Ronaldo hasn't done anything like that in his entire career.
 

Kerrybai

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Didn't score nearly as much.

And the Brazilian Ronaldo didn't score as much either, but he's definitely a step above the current one. Since when is football all about goals? Would you have Gerd Muller on your championship team too?

Plenty of other players would have higher scoring tallies if 25% of their goals came from the penalty spot. Cristiano makes my top 20 all time, but does't make it into the top 10.

He's go down as a great goalscorer like Gerd Muller, but he won't break into the elite greatest footballers table.
 
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BrianSwan

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And the Brazilian Ronaldo didn't score as much either, but he's definitely a step above the current one. Since when is football all about goals? Would you have Gerd Muller on your championship team too?

Plenty of other players would have higher scoring tallies if 25% of their goals came from the penalty spot. Cristiano makes my top 20 all time, but does't make it into the top 10.

He's go down as a great goalscorer like Gerd Muller, but he won't break into the elite greatest footballers table.

If it wasn't for his injuries he may have.
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
No his injuries have nothing to do with his talent. He's a machine and one of the best ever but he's never had the jaw dropping natural talent of say his Brazlian namesake.

I think he was referring to Brazilian Ronaldo when he said that. Ronaldo pre-injury was said to be an unearthly monster on the pitch. Especially in his one, incredible season with us.
 

Morten

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Neymar is better in the air than Cristiano?Thats probably the most ridiculous thing i have heard. Nor is he a better player overall. As for the brazilian Ronaldo, he might have had more talent, but Cristiano eclipse him at club level, and Ronaldo eclipse him on national team.
 
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BrianSwan

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Talent wise El Fenomeno is maybe the best ever, which yes.. puts him above Cristiano, if he didn't have such crippling injuries he might have smashed all the records there are. However, as Morten stated, Cristiano has surpassed him at club level.
 

valk

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Well I've never seen anything on a football pitch like pre-injury Ronaldo, so I'll let him aside. Cristiano for me is clearly the best footballer in the last 20 years after Messi. Better than Zidane, Ronaldinho and other great players.
Messi is better. Way better ? No. But he is. The Argentinian can both create and score goals. While Cristiano is a better in terms of scoring, Messi is a much much better creator. While Cristiano primarly activates in the last 20-25 metres, you see Messi all over the field given his superior technique. The Portuguese is way more dangerous in the penalty box, he has the complete arsenal. You can't want more from an attacker. But as an overall footballer Messi is better. Cristiano has better movement, is faster, better physically, a danger in the air(maybe the best header in the world, given his technique and also vertical) and has a better shot on him. I also consider him a better finisher, by a bit. As good first touch, even if you might laugh at this. Technically Messi edges him, as well as when it comes to creating chances, given to his better vision and much better passing.
 

NotInHere

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I rarely see Ronaldo defend lol, no way can you say his a better defender than Neymar, better dribbler? Neymar def, I don't know if you have seen his Brazil games, but he can conduct the ball like no other, he has that magic around him when he tries to go on a run, Ronaldo is a good dribbler but not out of this world, if you get excited by all of those fakes he does then sure he is simply magic.

Ronaldo is a classic goliador, people in here are actually making him out to be a Neymar/Messi hybrid lol
 

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