JamDav1982
Senior Member
Maybe, would have to look at the stats to see if his crossing massively went up in the latter part of season.
Messi has been the CF in all the other seasons as well when Alves on average crossed it more.
Daniel Alves
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Maybe, would have to look at the stats to see if his crossing massively went up in the latter part of season.
Messi has been the CF in all the other seasons as well when Alves on average crossed it more.
F
Flavia
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Messi was like a pure striker in some games, and not a false 9. Staying in the box, etc.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Oh right, sorry I misunderstood.
Only game I thought Messi was really like that was Atletico 2nd leg but in that game Alves crosses created the best chances!
Anyway I thought he looked very good tonight. Doesnt have the engine he used to get up and down park quite to the same level but Rakitic covered his areas brilliantly which allowed a fresher Alves on the RW to interact with Messi like times of old!
Alarcón
New member
The question is, what counts as a cross, i.e. are passes from the flanks into the box considered crosses, or only high crosses are. Obviously I may be mistaken but I can't believe that Dani made more high crosses during Guardiola's reign than last season, but it may very well be possible that he made more passes or low crosses into the box. The lines are blurred.
Sumlit
San Claudio Bravo
I believe JamDav is confused. Whoscored historical records only keep track of ACCURATE crosses per game, not total crosses per game. What he said would make sense in the context of accurate crosses.
They show.
--Year---Accurate crosses per game--
13/14 ------1.1
12/13 ------1.5
11/12 ------1.1
10/11 ------1
09/10 ------1.6
They don't show total crosses per game and there is where you could probably see a bigger number for last season than others. Alves wasted a lot of crosses last season.
These stats are only for La Liga btw.
They show.
--Year---Accurate crosses per game--
13/14 ------1.1
12/13 ------1.5
11/12 ------1.1
10/11 ------1
09/10 ------1.6
They don't show total crosses per game and there is where you could probably see a bigger number for last season than others. Alves wasted a lot of crosses last season.
These stats are only for La Liga btw.
Androutsos
Senior Member
With Eto'o and Henry in the box it, and Keita coming through it isn't as bad to cross as it is now tbh.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
Call me ignorant, but since when do Whoscored have historical records? I thought they just wipe the stats of each season as the new one starts.
Sumlit
San Claudio Bravo
When you are on a player's page, you can click the History tab (in green near the top, bellow the players name) that shows general stats for the last 5 seasons of domestic league plus UCL.
Messi's for instance
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/11119/History/Lionel-Messi
Or Alves'
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/5780/History/Dani-Alves
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/5780/History/Dani-Alves
Click on the history link on the player's profile.......
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
Sumlit
San Claudio Bravo
Well will you look at that, if you mouse over each accurate number of crosses stat per year, you get the amount accurate and the amount total.
So
--Year---Crosses accurate/total
13/14 ------31/160
12/13 ------44/160
11/12 ------36/122
10/11 ------36/167
09/10 ------46/195
Seems JamDav was indeed correct. Alves has been spraying crosses every single year.
Seemed more because the last 2 months of last season he was making like 10 crosses per game it seemed. Weird.
So
--Year---Crosses accurate/total
13/14 ------31/160
12/13 ------44/160
11/12 ------36/122
10/11 ------36/167
09/10 ------46/195
Seems JamDav was indeed correct. Alves has been spraying crosses every single year.
Seemed more because the last 2 months of last season he was making like 10 crosses per game it seemed. Weird.
KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
Perhaps, the majority of Alves's crosses last season came in the second half of the season, making it more noticeable when he messed up?
Sumlit
San Claudio Bravo
Could be.
Further analysis of the stats
--Year---Accurate crosses per game---Crosses accurate/total---Total crosses per game---Eficiency--
13/14 ---------1.1---------------------------31/160------------------5.9-----------------0.19
12/13 ---------1.5---------------------------44/160------------------5.5-----------------0.28
11/12 ---------1.1---------------------------36/122------------------3.7-----------------0.30
10/11 ----------1----------------------------36/167------------------4.7-----------------0.22
09/10 ---------1.6---------------------------46/195------------------6.7-----------------0.24
So basically in 13/14 Alves had the second highest cross per game total of his last 5 season, but had the lowest amount of accurate crosses and the lowest crossing efficiency.
Btw, again, these stats are only for La Liga.
evilhita666
Barçapocalypse NOW!
He seemed more responsible in attack tonight, he picked his moments right... He wasn't tested defensively, but I'm sure having Raki covering will be great for him...
Ronnie10
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I can't believe what I've seen. ONLY TWO CROSSES, AND ONE OF THEM WAS A LOW CROSS!I just can't believe that. Hold me barcaforum
his passing is just too good for being wasted for useless crosses
They say that Luis Enrique somehow explained to Alves that Ibrahimovic is not Barca player anymore.
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