Daniel Alves

[serghei]

Why?

Iniesta is younger and signed that contract a year and a half ago.

Insane to give a 32 year old FB those wages for three years.

Iniesta is 1 year younger. Hardly relevant. If Iniesta's contract runs through 2018, with say 10m a year, Alves should get a 3 year contract close to that figure.

 

[Hamzah]

Because Barca's board is filled with cheap bastards.

This isn't a charity club we are running a business.

 

[Flavia]

This isn't a charity club we are running a business.

Douglas disagrees

 

[serghei]

Douglas disagrees

And others. Douglas is just a small fish in the pond.

 

[DonAK]

This isn't a charity club we are running a business.

Then I guess people won't moan if Qatar bids the most whenever we're about to look for a new sponsor.

 

[serghei]

This isn't a charity club we are running a business.

Again, then don't whine about no unicef logo (speaking generally). Be happy with Qatar logo. We are running a bussiness, not a charity club, right?

 

[TornAndFrayed]

Barça has the highest wages bill in the world. Cheap bastards indeed, eh.
Also taking Iniesta as an example is a terrible idea. What about Raki who is being paid less and had the better season ? Would it be fair to him that Alves is paid more ?
It's a bit of a pointless debate.

 

[serghei]

Then I guess people won't moan if Qatar bids the most whenever we're about to look for a new sponsor.

The hell they won't. They will say money aren't everything.

 

[DonAK]

The hell they won't. They will say money aren't everything.

Yep. And Qatar Aiways is by the way a 5 star airline with a top rep and credibility among the finest in the aviation industry. It's a business so if they bid the most we should take the deal.

 

[serghei]

lol, seriously. Barça has the highest wages bill in the world. Cheap bastards indeed, eh.
Also taking Iniesta as an example is a terrible idea. What about Raki who is being paid less and had the better season ? Would it be fair to him that Alves is paid more ?
It's a bit of a pointless debate.

Barca has the highest wages bill in the world. Exactly. That is why Alves is right. They are cheap bastards only in his case.

 

[mark1nhu]

By saying to Alves 'we wont renew your conract in a years time 100% no chance and we are signing your replacement...it is your choice to stay or go'

In all honesty that sounds like just about the worst way to treat Alves that would have seen him leave the club when had so much more to give. It is only because they didnt tdo that he is still here and have a chance of having him next season.

As for leaking of contract negotiations there is a hundred places that could have come from, happens under every Barca board to every Barca player and almost every big name player world wide. Alves needs to suck it up.

Man, if you think that being honest and transparent is the worst thing to do, our conversation has nowhere to go, because we clearly have different values.

And, of course, a talented businessman can pass that message in a much softer way than you put it, and still leave hope for him without hurting his pride.

I myself was able to do it, not with professional footballer, of course.

People generally don't like to be put in a second place, just WAITING for your valuable time and attention. They rather a direct and honest conversation, even if not with the expected results.

And, finally, Dani is not only a professional but also a Barça legend. Do you REALLY think he would put all his history on the basura and play with no effort because of that?

He is not doing that while PISSED with the board. Imagine if he was treated the way he deserved, the correct way!¡!¡!¡!¡!

 

[serghei]

Yep. And Qatar Aiways is by the way a 5 star airline with a top rep and credibility among the finest in the aviation industry. It's a business so if they bid the most we should take the deal.

We should. And since it's a bussiness, we should rename the stadium Qamp Nou.

 

[JamDav1982]

Iniesta is 1 year younger. Hardly relevant. If Iniesta's contract runs through 2018, with say 10m a year, Alves should get a 3 year contract close to that figure.

Totally disagree, Alves should not be given a contract until 2018 on Iniesta wages.

Each player is judged on their own merits and Iniesta is a year younger so in to treat them same at best Alves on those wages for 2 years.

 

[TornAndFrayed]

Barca has the highest wages bill in the world. Exactly. That is why Alves is right. They are cheap bastards only in his case.

whatever this discussion can't go anywhere
Associating with Qatar also has indirect negative effects. It's so simplistic to reduce it to this prude/slut dichotomy.

 

[JamDav1982]

Man, if you think that being honest and transparent is the worst thing to do, our conversation has nowhere to go, because we clearly have different values.

And, of course, a talented businessman can pass that message in a much softer way than you put it, and still leave hope for him without hurting his pride.

I myself was able to do it, not with professional footballer, of course.

People generally don't like to be put in a second place, just WAITING for your valuable time and attention. They rather a direct and honest conversation, even if not with the expected results.

And, finally, Dani is not only a professional but also a Barça legend. Do you REALLY think he would put all his history on the basura and play with no effort because of that?

He is not doing that while PISSED with the board. Imagine if he was treated the way he deserved, the correct way!¡!¡!¡!¡!

No chance whatsoever Alves stays if they signed a replacement last summer and told him there would be no contract renewal in 2015.

Nowhere have i said being 'open and transparent' is not best thing to do but leaving your options open on a player is better than giving him an ultimatum in 2014 when he would have left.