Ernesto Valverde - V1

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
We've been screaming for some consistency and last game against Girona was the first time we clicked in 10-15 games. Capitalize on it and finally begin to establish som much needed continuity? Learn from what he did right?

Nah, let's switch up the line-up completely and disregard every single lesson he could have learned this season.
 

FC433

New member
We would have lost this game under Lucho. 2-1. Valverde at least gave us that. But, we are Barca, we should anhillate opponents like this.

It does not work that way. We cannot settle for such poor performance because our other option is worse. We appreciate what he did and we did actually praise him, but we expect more. Much better performance and better results. We want both not one but both.
 

Stoichkov1

New member
Winning the league this season is not a super achievement either with Madrid's implosion. But it would show promising signs for Valverde and a good start. But some of his major blunders lately, like playing conservative football away to some poor La Liga teams, basically defending in a 4 block in midfield and just giving the ball to Messi to just dribble his way through on goal... this is bad stuff.

He basically played this game like he played vs Chelsea in terms of tactics. Even the result is similar.

Madrid's implosion doesn't matter if Atletico get more than 90 points just like Real does every season.
 

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
We've been screaming for some consistency and last game against Girona was the first time we clicked in 10-15 games. Capitalize on it and finally begin to establish som much needed continuity? Learn from what he did right?

Nah, let's switch up the line-up completely and disregard every single lesson he could have learned this season.

We could have won that game with the Girona line-up playing at below 50%. Instead we drop points against a relegation side and force key players to play on 100%.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Again it is easy to say winning league means nothing but it completely ignores where Barca were seen as being at the start of the season.

Man, Madrid's implosion is not Valverde's credit at all. We've built that lead also because Madrid and Atletico lost many points in the first half of the season to poorer teams. Madrid is continuing to do that in the 2nd half of the season too, but Atletico for about 2 months is winning almost everything. And as you see, now that we seem to have a real rival on our tails, the lead is getting thinner and thinner.

You expect me to give Valverde credit because our main rival has been crap? We haven't played that great.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Man, Madrid's implosion is not Valverde's credit at all. We've built that lead also because Madrid and Atletico lost many points in the first half of the season to poorer teams. Madrid is continuing to do that in the 2nd half of the season too, but Atletico for about 2 months is winning almost everything.

You expect me to give Valverde credit because our main rival has been crap?

It is to his credit that Barca did not implode and it proves how winning is not just 'expected' as you make it out to be when a supposedly better squad at Real have struggled.

That is to Valverdes credit and Barca have contributed to their poor season by going there and beating them 3-0.
 
Maybe it's better if we lose against Atletico and drop points against Malaga and he gets fired. Feel like it's only a matter of time before we fall behind Atletico anyway. We will lose against them this weekend so the lead will be down to 2 points, which is nothing. Might as well get Valverde out before the Chelsea game so we actually have a chance of accomplishing something in the CL. Or at the very least give Xavi a few extra months of pre-season.

Need to act before we get another Tata season. It's clear at this point that EV doesn't learn from his mistakes.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
It is to his credit that Barca did not implode and it proves how winning is not just 'expected' as you make it out to be when a supposedly better squad at Real have struggled.

That is to Valverdes credit and Barca have contributed to their poor season by going there and beating them 3-0.

Who thought Barca would implode this season? Those idiots on redcafe and not many more others. I sure didn't, and I'm sure many here were thinking we can win the league considering our record in the last decade. Barca almost won the double last season against much much tough opposition in what was maybe the best Madrid I've ever seen.

Valverde deserves credit for not losing points and doing a very serious job. However, the game is not great, we don't play aesthetic football unless Messi has the ball. And, on top of that, the seriousness that brought us that lead is fading through Valverde's idiotic management.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Who thought Barca would implode? Those idiots on redcafe and not many more others. Barca almost won the double last season against much much tough opposition in what was maybe the best Madrid I've ever seen.

Plenty on here had it as doom and gloom with Real having much better squad.

Valverde deserves credit for Barca being 5 points clear having been to most of toughest grounds in league. Absolutely he does.
 

FC433

New member
It is to his credit that Barca did not implode and it proves how winning is not just 'expected' as you make it out to be when a supposedly better squad at Real have struggled.

That is to Valverdes credit and Barca have contributed to their poor season by going there and beating them 3-0.

It is his job too. What else did we expect from him? It is one of the best squads out there. He is not managing midtable team, I believe.
 

Cule4life

The Culest
Not to mention with Madrid's implosion we have been playing relatively stress free in La liga with not much pressure
 

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