FC Barcelona Finances
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Luftstalag14
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What a silly article that was. Again, it is the same media pundits and nobodies who understand very little about what is ailing us, what has happened and they just chose to open their pie hole and give their worthless 2 cents and blah blah blah.
Reckeless spending? Like what? Lewandowski's signing is the only one that has merits regardless "reckless spending". Raphinha was reckless spending, hello?? Kessie and Christensen were cases of reckless spending?
Even though I was against the Lewandowski transfer, I could still understand the club wanted to a new poster boy, something that can be the face of the club for a little while, while it lasts. The same thing with what they did with the levers. Yes I would have preferred them to be more prudent and responsible and not be selling our rights and assets etc. and live through the next several years through measures of austerity, but I can also understand why they want to put together a competitive squad and bring us out of the rut, giving our sponsors and potential sponsors something to chew with. Otherwise I suppose, if this keep going south sponsors will leave us in droves. Already we are having hard time bringing new sponsors in, this bad rut as a result of our finances that we have been in for the last couple of years is really making our value plummet in the eyes of the sponsors and this has to stop somehow.
Yes we are selling a brand, a story but the author of that Guardians article doesn't seem to understand is without results on the pitch, the brand and story will not be sustainable. Of course we are not just building a story, we are building a football team. Silly stuff.
Reckeless spending? Like what? Lewandowski's signing is the only one that has merits regardless "reckless spending". Raphinha was reckless spending, hello?? Kessie and Christensen were cases of reckless spending?
Even though I was against the Lewandowski transfer, I could still understand the club wanted to a new poster boy, something that can be the face of the club for a little while, while it lasts. The same thing with what they did with the levers. Yes I would have preferred them to be more prudent and responsible and not be selling our rights and assets etc. and live through the next several years through measures of austerity, but I can also understand why they want to put together a competitive squad and bring us out of the rut, giving our sponsors and potential sponsors something to chew with. Otherwise I suppose, if this keep going south sponsors will leave us in droves. Already we are having hard time bringing new sponsors in, this bad rut as a result of our finances that we have been in for the last couple of years is really making our value plummet in the eyes of the sponsors and this has to stop somehow.
Yes we are selling a brand, a story but the author of that Guardians article doesn't seem to understand is without results on the pitch, the brand and story will not be sustainable. Of course we are not just building a story, we are building a football team. Silly stuff.
serghei
Senior Member
The upside of what they are doing is real. If the club starts to pick up and get back at the top, the budget will go back to approaching 900m or thereabouts. That is the aim. Lowering of wage mass, and rising the profits to pre pandemic levels would allow us to net impressive profits and turn the ship around. The interest rate of some of those levers is equal to just 2-3 semifinal campaigns in Europe for example.
150-200m is not that much in football these days. You could burn that with just 1-2 bad transfers.
150-200m is not that much in football these days. You could burn that with just 1-2 bad transfers.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Where are you getting 150-200m from?
If looking at it as 1 or 2 bad transfers then the situation of club would be if actually made 1 or 2 bad transfers that size with this repayment it would be equivilant of 3 or 4 bad transfres to deal with at that time.
If looking at it as 1 or 2 bad transfers then the situation of club would be if actually made 1 or 2 bad transfers that size with this repayment it would be equivilant of 3 or 4 bad transfres to deal with at that time.
serghei
Senior Member
But the whole idea is to improve the management of the club. You're not loaning money to perpetuate Bartomeu's sabotage job. Someone should check what is the interest rate for the deals made with Sixth Street. Can't that even be covered by elevating the results that you can get from the improvement of the team?
Like if in 5 years you make 3 CL semis, which is not all that absurd, the money UEFA pays you alone will probably even cover the interest rate for one of those deals.
That's not even mentioning the increase in organic revenue star players will give you.
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
The interest rate?
Basically Barca will be paying back double what they get for the tv contracts. So around 500m and pay back a billion or so possibly more over next 25 years.
It is a gamble no doubt. Probably based on idea if it went tits up and prevents them being as competitive some point in future can fall back on selling off half the club possibly.
Barca would not be missing out on CL last 16 or even further without this deal. Still have more than strong enough squad to achieve that.
It is not reality to look at it as Barca have a squad that would not be doing better than club did last season.
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serghei
Senior Member
I don't think it's unlikely to get 400m more in profits in next 5-6 years as a result of improving the team. You get around 200m more in that time frame if you perform much better in CL, and I'm not talking about winning it.
We have to wait and see. Money in football are serious, but that goes both ways. You can also make a lot if you get your shit together, and Barca easily have the potential to set leading revenues again.
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
In comparison to what?
The current squad had they not pulled the levers?
How do you see the club making 400m more in next 5-6 seasons?
Plus it will be more than just the tv money missing out on when they pull the other levers.
serghei
Senior Member
Money from UEFA for performing better in CL, filling Camp Nou more frequently increasing matchday revenue, obtaining better sponsorship deals by having more superstars in the team. You know, the stuff we did to hit record revenues 4 years ago. Wasn't all Messi.
A considerably improved team sets you in a much better position to hit those targets. Compared to an austerity period where you are much reduced in your ability to generate revenue.
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
By performing better in CL what do you think is the difference in performance if dont pull the levers compared to if do?
There is not much room for sponsorships to boom really. Although could argue be in better place to get better shirt deal etc next time round.
Who are the superstars? Lewandowski?
serghei
Senior Member
Probably 30-40m. You could even get beaten in the groups if you get unlucky and draw a big team from pot 3. About 2 extra stages. Last 16 would be best you can achieve with a mediocre side.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
I mean expectations of how far would go in CL now in comparison to if had not pulled levers.
Barca wont be beaten in groups any time soon with or without that lever.
Who are the superstars in team that are going to attract all the sponsors?
400m+ in next 5/6 years seems hugely optimistic.
serghei
Senior Member
Lewandowski is one of the biggest stars in the game. Raphinha could easily boom in the next year or two as well.
Barcelona could easily get sent home in CL groups if you don't improve the team. It's not that hard to do. Draw a Dortmund from pot 3, a City from pot 1 and can easily happen with an average team. Even Benfica was enough to trash Koeman Barca last year.
With an improved team, even a semifinal is reachable. You're talking major difference in money if that is the case.
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serghei
Senior Member
We will see in the next years if revenue goes back up or stays the way it was in 2021/22. If it stays the same, and we don't win titles, then activating these levers will be seen as a bad strategy in hindsight.
My guess is the old saying you have to spend money to make money stands true here as well. A conservative approach where you take the hit for a few good years would've worked also. But for the fans, it's better to have something to cheer than just watch your rival get all the titles.
My guess is the old saying you have to spend money to make money stands true here as well. A conservative approach where you take the hit for a few good years would've worked also. But for the fans, it's better to have something to cheer than just watch your rival get all the titles.
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