Francesc "Tito" Vilanova

[serghei]

Motivation did play a big role, but our tactics in that game were also good, far better than they've been in any other game this season.

Well, in that match we didn't let Milan play. They couldn't keep the ball more than a couple of seconds, because we pressed them hard with our 3 men up front: Messi, Pedro and Villa. Since that game our pressing was either isolated - reduced to one-two players - or non-existent. But pressing is hard, it demands a lot of dedication. And dedication without motivation is not possible. And I also think the physical prep. in the summer, after the Copa del Rey final was a mess.

PS: I love Messi, don't get me wrong, but he used to run and work a lot harder under Pep than he does under Tito. I have seen matches this year in which Messi was literally walking on the pitch - adagio-modo so to speak.

 

[darthvader7888]

Well, in that match we didn't let Milan play. They couldn't keep the ball more than a couple of seconds, because we pressed them hard with our 3 men up front: Messi, Pedro and Villa. Since that game our pressing was either isolated - reduced to one-two players - or non-existent. But pressing is hard, it demands a lot of dedication. And dedication without motivation is not possible. And I also think the physical prep. in the summer, after the Copa del Rey final was a mess.

Pressing is part motivation, but it's a tactical thing too. It seems to me that the pressing usually just isn't in our gameplan these days.
And it wasn't just the pressing either. There were other tactical changes like the 3-4-3 formation, etc. Why Tito didn't try switching to it or something similar against Bayern (when it was clear at half time that things weren't working out tactically) is beyond me. I agree with you that motivation is also a major issue though.

 

[serghei]

Pressing is part motivation, but it's a tactical thing too. It seems to me that the pressing usually just isn't in our gameplan these days.
And it wasn't just the pressing either. There were other tactical changes like the 3-4-3 formation, etc. Why Tito didn't try switching to it or something similar against Bayern is beyond me. I agree with you that motivation is also a major issue though.

I was very dissapointed with our technical staff this season. Winning la Liga doesn't prove me wrong, since Madrid had a disastrous season in Spain.

1. The physical form - we often seemed exhausted throghout the season, and I mean physically exhausted.
2. The lack in motivation - except second leg with Milan, we never showed that aching desire to win that we had with Pep.
3. The way players are told to react on the pitch - I don't want to see players put in the first XI just to help Messi score more goals. This is not FC Messi. Alexis, Neymar, Pedro, Villa are too good of a players to serve as aids for someone (even for Messi). They can produce the goods themselves if trusted to do so. Next season I don't want to see Messi 50+ goals, Alexis 5-7 goals, Neymar 7 goals. I want to see Messi 35 goals, Alexis 20 goals, Neymar 20 goals.

 

[darthvader7888]

I was very dissapointed with our technical staff this season. Winning la Liga doesn't prove me wrong, since Madrid had a disastrous season in Spain.

1. The physical form - we often seemed exhausted throghout the season, and I mean physically exhausted.
2. The lack in motivation - except second leg with Milan, we never showed that aching desire to win that we had with Pep.
3. The way players are told to react on the pitch - I don't want to see players put in the first XI just to help Messi score more goals. This is not FC Messi. Alexis, Neymar, Pedro, Villa are too good of a players to serve as aids for someone (even for Messi). They can produce the goods themselves if trusted to do so. Next season I don't want to see Messi 50+ goals, Alexis 5-7 goals, Neymar 7 goals. I want to see Messi 35 goals, Alexis 20 goals, Neymar 20 goals.

About your last point, others can score 20+ goals with Messi scoring 60+. If Sanchez could finish, he'd easily have 20+ goals this season. Not to mention that Messi scored 53 goals in the 2011 season and Pedro and Villa still scored a good amount. This belief that Messi's crazy goalscoring stats somehow interfere with the goalscoring of other forwards is bullshit.

I agree about the rest of your points though. + our tactics are shit, especially in big games. And Tito's at fault for all this. 1 is coz of shit rotation, 2 is the coach's job, and tactics are also the coach's job.

 

[ryuken]

I was very dissapointed with our technical staff this season. Winning la Liga doesn't prove me wrong, since Madrid had a disastrous season in Spain.

1. The physical form - we often seemed exhausted throghout the season, and I mean physically exhausted.
2. The lack in motivation - except second leg with Milan, we never showed that aching desire to win that we had with Pep.
3. The way players are told to react on the pitch - I don't want to see players put in the first XI just to help Messi score more goals. This is not FC Messi. Alexis, Neymar, Pedro, Villa are too good of a players to serve as aids for someone (even for Messi). They can produce the goods themselves if trusted to do so. Next season I don't want to see Messi 50+ goals, Alexis 5-7 goals, Neymar 7 goals. I want to see Messi 35 goals, Alexis 20 goals, Neymar 20 goals.

Messi score that amount for a reason, he would have plenty of assists too if other actually know how to put the freaking ball at the back of the net. Your blaming other incompetent on Messi ? What madness is this.

 

[BerkeleyBernie]

PS: I love Messi, don't get me wrong, but he used to run and work a lot harder under Pep than he does under Tito. I have seen matches this year in which Messi was literally walking on the pitch - adagio-modo so to speak.

• Larghissimo – very, very slow (19 BPM and under)
• Messissimo- very, very slowly (19 BPM and under) with sporadic short bursts to Presto (168–177 BPM)
• Grave – slow and solemn (20–40 BPM)
• Lento – slowly (40–45 BPM)
• Largo – broadly (45–50 BPM)
• Larghetto – rather broadly (50–55 BPM)
• Adagio – slow and stately (literally, "at ease") (55–65 BPM)
• Adagietto – rather slow (65–69 BPM)
• Andante moderato – a bit slower than andante (69–72 BPM)
• Andante – at a walking pace (73–77 BPM)
• Andantino – slightly faster than andante (although in some cases it can be taken to mean slightly slower than andante) (78–83 BPM)
• Marcia moderato – moderately, in the manner of a march (83–85 BPM)
• Moderato – moderately (86–97 BPM)

• Accelerando - gradually accelerating
• Allegretto – moderately fast (98–109 BPM)
• Allegro – fast, quickly and bright (109–132 BPM)
• Vivace – lively and fast (132–140 BPM)
• Vivacissimo – very fast and lively (140–150 BPM)
• Allegrissimo – very fast (150–167 BPM)
• Presto – very fast (168–177 BPM)
• Prestissimo – extremely fast (178 BPM and over)

 

[instinct]

In the second leg vs Milan it was the difficult task of coming back from a 0-2 deficite that motivated the players, not some sort of master gameplan from Tito & Roura. They lack the power to motivate the players in big games and that shows.

I think Tito and Roura do not take part in this motivation thing. I seriously can't imagine Tito screaming shouting and motivating the players in the locker room. He is absolutely different to coaches like Klopp or Pep.
The players themselves motivated each other. That is what I believe.

 

[Semi-Neutral]

You don't have to scream or shout to motivate people...

 

[instinct]

Sorry for this missunderstanding. Did not expect that people do not understand hyperboles.

 

[Semi-Neutral]

It's not a hyperbole, a quiet coach can motivate someone just as well as a loud one, I can totally imagine the locker room dead silent as Tito quietly states a motivational speech.

 

[Flavia]

It's not a hyperbole, a quiet coach can motivate someone just as well as a loud one, I can totally imagine the locker room dead silent as Tito quietly states a motivational speech.

It's not the same. Passion plays a big part on it. A quiet person, with no passion on his speech, would have a harder time motivating.

 

[JamDav1982]

It's not the same. Passion plays a big part on it. A quiet person, with no passion on his speech, would have a harder time motivating.

A coach can be quiet and not show lots of passion as long as the players have full respect for them and believe in them.

Plenty examples of that over the years.

 

[Flavia]

A coach can be quiet and not show lots of passion as long as the players have full respect for them and believe in them.

Plenty examples of that over the years.

Respect and belief have nothing to do with motivational skills. And I said it is harder to motivate with a quiet speech, because it is.

 

[JamDav1982]

Respect and belief have nothing to do with motivational skills. And I said it is harder to motivate with a quiet speech, because it is.

It has a massive impact on motivational skills if players respect and believe the manager. It is more important than passion.

 

[Flavia]

It has a massive impact on motivational skills if players respect and believe the manager. It is more important than passion.

I don't agree. For motivational purposes, you need to know how to motivate. But a coach can appear quiet and know how to do that. But boring, quiet speeches hardly motivate anyone, in any profession.