Frenkie de Jong

[Riordon]

Half measures is what we're all about. Forget spending money on true talent and quality. Many around here probably still think Liverpool overpaid for Van Dijk. Same with Manchester City and De Bruyne a few years ago.

Well, we just brought Coutinho for 160 and Dembele for 145. We spend a lot of money.

 

[George_Costanza]

So the nightmare of many here is coming true rabiot is coming and de jong going to psg

 

[Sorin]

Yeah, I mean people here were even bitching about signing Neymar when we had Deulofeu lol.

And when there were reports Pogba was available for 80m the same people were laughing at that price and celebrating when Gomes was signed for 35m because it's the same player right

Did you think about the resell value of Gomes? No? Then you're doing it wrong when that's all that matters around here nowadays. That's where the prestige comes from.

 

[FCBfan22]

For anyone saying that we have no money...

We have just sold Paulinho to G. Evergrande for 50 million and Paco for 28.

 

[Joan]

Well, the Catalan press claim we have 100m to use on transfers + more from other sales and we're not spending a penny on Rabiot and Tobido.

Is that such a limited budget? Barca should sign supreme talent or quality when they can instead of being cheap or spending a little less money on shit players instead.

Perhaps if they had done that we'd not have such an old core.

Your excuses are ridiculous and baseless.

I suppose you'll be the first one to celebrate when we sign Murillo to a permanent deal then too, and have to use him in a key KO match next season.

And Barca doesn't sign shit players. Arda wasn't shit (on the contrary) back then, Gomes seemed promising with some experience (both international and in the league) etc. Those deals failed, we need to move on. However, nothing to do with Abidal.

Us not signing certain means nothing. Especially not that we're not looking for quality.

Don't know what's up with you and Murillo. He's got 6 months, most likely won't be signed unless he impresses and surprises everyone. Which I don't see the problem with.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Some fans here exemplify why Barca have always been a selfdestructing club.

When there's supreme talent or a World Class player available to be had for a steep price they will spend days and weeks arguing against it, but when we sign three average players for the same amount as it would cost to sign one World Class or potential World Class player, they will celebrate it and when it flops in the end they will be nowhere to be found

At least get your facts right when arguing for something. @Alik pretty much destroyed the whole budget, "we lack money" argument.

We're starting to look more like Bayern Munich of the last few years and you can see where that lead them to in the end.

And when they flop they will just say it is low risk, we can always sell them to somebody else as if we are in the reselling business.

We sign players not to resell. We sign players that fit our profile and goals and objectives to build a great team. We live to succeed, to win titles and trophies, to be the best. This should be Barca.

Some folks seem to forget what our priorities are.

 

[Gaudi]

If UEFA wont do something against oil/state clubs, and it wont, our scouts needs to do better, we need to see those talents faster than them and then take a risk. How much was Frankie Worth a year ago or even 6 months ago?

 

[Joan]

If UEFA wont do something against oil/state clubs, and it wont, our scouts needs to do better, we need to see those talents faster than them and then take a risk. How much was Frankie Worth a year ago or even 6 months ago?

They wouldn't sell a 6 months (probably not even a year ago). That's easier said than done. Just an example: Dembele. Our scouts were all over him before his move to Dortmund. He refused. Young players often don't want big moves too early in their careers.

 

[Sorin]

Would bet a nut that if internet boards existed around 1996-1997, you'd get people arguing about not paying a world record sum to sign Ronaldo because he was unproven or justifying his sell to Inter one year later. Some people have made it their religion to stick up for this cancerous board so wouldn't be surprised to see something like that.

 

[DonAK]

And Barca doesn't sign shit players. Arda wasn't shit (on the contrary) back then, Gomes seemed promising with some experience (both international and in the league) etc. Those deals failed, we need to move on. However, nothing to do with Abidal.

Us not signing certain means nothing. Especially not that we're not looking for quality.

Don't know what's up with you and Murillo. He's got 6 months, most likely won't be signed unless he impresses and surprises everyone. Which I don't see the problem with.

We signed one good player with warning signs that said he didn't want to run for Simeone anymore, was 28 years old and had a growing reputation of becoming lazy. Then we signed a player who at that time was struggling a bit for Valencia. The fact that we even signed a player like Arda to play him out of position is dumb enough itself.

When we could have signed a better player for the added sums of both. A real high quality player instead of one project and one aging "star".

You're proving my point. That's been Barca's MO the last years.

Some of you guys are more afraid of spending money on one high quality player or supreme talent level player than spending the same amount of money on 2-3 average or decent players.

I don't want to hear about resale value. This is FC Barcelona, not Sevilla. We should sign players that we believe can start for us and is of high quality and depth players with proper value for us that got a shot at potentially starting and doing decently well in time of injuries.

 

[BarçaBarça]

A question regarding the procedure. Are other clubs allowed to talk with players under contract without permission? If not, why Ajax let them?

Ajax won't, but it is very easy for top-clubs to meet agents who are willing to meet. Happens all the time, and Ajax "allows it" by not officially badmouthing the clubs they suspect doing it.

De Jong should be top-priority, and think he will be as well. For 60-70M€ he would be a very fine buy, imo. He is versatile as well, that makes his chances of success here bigger.
Would also be a statement, that we can attract they best promising youngsters. De ligt must be sacrificed if it comes down to a choice between them, but getting both really would be immense!

 

[Joan]

We signed one good player with warning signs that said he didn't want to run for Simeone anymore, was 28 years old and had a growing reputation of becoming lazy. Then we signed a player who at that time was struggling a bit for Valencia. The fact that we even signed a player like Arda to play him out of position is dumb enough itself.

When we could have signed a better player for the added sums of both. A real high quality player instead of one project and one aging "star".

You're proving my point. That's been Barca's MO the last years.

Some of you guys are more afraid of spending money on one high quality player or supreme talent level player than spending the same amount of money on 2-3 average or decent players.

I don't want to hear about resale value. This is FC Barcelona, not Sevilla. We should sign players that we believe can start for us and is of high quality and depth players with proper value for us that got a shot at potentially starting and doing decently well in time of injuries.

It hasn't been Barca's MO the last years. We've gone for many quality players. Umtiti, Coutinho, Dembele etc. But even Arda (who was supposed to be in his prime) wasn't an unambitious transfer. We wanted diversity, same with Gomes, but failed.

Besides, it's only January. True business will be done in the summer. Possibly we're all jumping the gun.

 

[George_Costanza]

And Barca doesn't sign shit players. Arda wasn't shit (on the contrary) back then, Gomes seemed promising with some experience (both international and in the league) etc. Those deals failed, we need to move on. However, nothing to do with Abidal.

Us not signing certain means nothing. Especially not that we're not looking for quality.

Don't know what's up with you and Murillo. He's got 6 months, most likely won't be signed unless he impresses and surprises everyone. Which I don't see the problem with.

what happened to your username? Not complaining, it's actually better now because I always thought you represent more Sandro Rosell or Bartomeu than Joan Laporta's ideas.

 

[DonAK]

Another option could be looking at Eriksen who has a year left in his contract upcoming summer, and selling Rakitic with Rabiot coming.

That way you add a top class midfielder who can help us win right now.

But that's potentially too much money. Let's sign Pablo Fornals and Carlos Soler for 80m instead.

 

[Gaudi]

They wouldn't sell a 6 months (probably not even a year ago). That's easier said than done. Just an example: Dembele. Our scouts were all over him before his move to Dortmund. He refused. Young players often don't want big moves too early in their careers.

That's true of course, not all will willingly come when we knock but we should knock faster than PSG or simillar clubs