Gerard Deulofeu

[Deco 20]

Thinking Deulofeu has any chance of reaching Cristiano Ronaldo's level is just deluded

The only time there was ever any doubt about Messi was when he had those injuries

 

[NeyMesSis]

For guys who have maybe forgot how a 18 year old boy Messi played (and who are comparing Deulo with Messi or Ronaldo) and how a future world class player plays at the age of 18, here is Messi aged 18 at Gamper, Barca:Juventus:
(Not in the segunda division or against U18 NT teams, but against senior world class teams like Juventus)

He was the something like the boss even at the age of 18, even with Ronaldinho, Etoo and Larsson on the field.

When some of our youngsters will play in a similar way on a senior level at the age of 18, then we should hype him.
Today, media are hyping everyone, for almost anything.

Messi is the best footballer the world has ever seen.. Its absurd to say Deulo isnt going to make it at barca because he isnt as good as Messi at his age, because nobody will ever be... probably..

Deulofeu is 20 years old.. He has already ripped the segunde apart with 18/19 years old. Then he went to Everton and had for a 19/20 year old player a great season in the EPL (would have been even better without the injuries).. Now he plays at Sevilla and showed in his first 1-2 games some great thing.

I dont say its sure that he will make it, but I have very big faith in him.. I'm pretty sure he was send on loan because he has to much talent to stay on the bench behind suarez.. Munir and sandro can also play with the B team it thats a reason why deulo was send on loan. Im sure he will have a great year and will return to barca next season to replace pedro

 

[Darko]

Damn, almost forgot how fast Messi was.

 

[eye-switcher]

Two European assists
Deulofeu suggests he didn't know he was swapping Barça for Sevilla

Gerard Deulofeu shone for Sevilla in the Europa League on Thursday but then said he didn't know Barça were sending him on loan

Gerard Deulofeu at last got a chance to show his new club Sevilla what he is all about - and he made sure he took it.

The Barcelona forward, who is spending the season on loan in Andalusia, has played just 17 minutes in the league so far this season, but he was handed a start against Feyenoord in the Europa League on Thursday evening.

And from the word go Deulofeu impressed. He was responsible for setting up both goals in his side's 2-0 win and was later named man of the match.

However, speaking to Onda Cero after the game he sent a message in the direction of the Blaugrana:

"I would like to have known I was going to be sent out on loan," he said in reference to his surprise move south in August.

The 20-year-old now wants to win the confidence of his new boss, Unai Emery, but he knows that he has to demonstrate patience.

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If this is true, its extremley badly handled by Lucho and Barcelona, they are not exactly setting him up to wanna continue in Barca colours, just hope we wont regret it...
And only played 17 minutes Before Thursday, its not likely that these loans are going to do him much good is it. Dissappointed in how Barca handled this from the beginning even more dissappointed and frustrated in Barca now

 

[BBZ8800]

And only played 17 minutes Before Thursday, its not likely that these loans are going to do him much good is it. Dissappointed in how Barca handled this from the beginning even more dissappointed and frustrated in Barca now

So, imagine that he stayed at Barcelona, and that we "need" to give him a chance.

1. the Season starts, you play him in the first 10 matches
-- he plays average/bad, team loses 8-10 points because he played upfront and played badly
What then?
a) to bench him, and he will rotten on the bench again
b) or continue to force him in the first team, and hope that he will start to play better and that he will develop well over time
2. you play him further, he is again average, the team is losing points and titles.
Where is the line? In which moment would you say: "That was enough, you will not get any chances."
"We can't go on like this forever and wait for you forever, and to play you even though you are not on the highest level yet"

You can't just give unlimited amount of chances to someone and hope that something will happen with him.
You can't ruin the whole team and the whole Season just to see if someone will or will not turn into a good/great player.

You have to earn your chance to play with the first team, and when you get those 2-3 chances, you have to shine right away.

Deulofeu, it seems, lost his chances in Barca for now. And he will have to earn a new chance with his loan spell in Sevilla.
If he will play poorly/average there, why should he get a new chance at Barca (or any other player in a similar position)?

 

[DonAK]

Emery (coach Sevilla): "Deulofeu has great potential. Our goal is to make him a better player - better in defense and a better team player."

 

[Zangash]

Emery (coach Sevilla): "Deulofeu has great potential. Our goal is to make him a better player - better in defense and a better team player."

Sounds good to me, to be honest. He has all the raw talent he will ever need, but when he is able to integrate into our team and defend the way Lucho wants he'll be unstoppable. I'd rather give Emery the chance to mold him into that player than send him back to a team that's already proved they have no interest inn actually playing him.

 

[khaled_a_d]

So, imagine that he stayed at Barcelona, and that we "need" to give him a chance.

1. the Season starts, you play him in the first 10 matches
-- he plays average/bad, team loses 8-10 points because he played upfront and played badly
What then?
a) to bench him, and he will rotten on the bench again
b) or continue to force him in the first team, and hope that he will start to play better and that he will develop well over time
2. you play him further, he is again average, the team is losing points and titles.
Where is the line? In which moment would you say: "That was enough, you will not get any chances."
"We can't go on like this forever and wait for you forever, and to play you even though you are not on the highest level yet"

You can't just give unlimited amount of chances to someone and hope that something will happen with him.
You can't ruin the whole team and the whole Season just to see if someone will or will not turn into a good/great player.

You have to earn your chance to play with the first team, and when you get those 2-3 chances, you have to shine right away.

Deulofeu, it seems, lost his chances in Barca for now. And he will have to earn a new chance with his loan spell in Sevilla.
If he will play poorly/average there, why should he get a new chance at Barca (or any other player in a similar position)?

Gerard wasn't given a real fair chance with Barca ,and no young players don't have to shine right away otherwise the likes of Bartra&Roberto would have been out long time ago
Gerard need a real chance to play ,a chance to play his game a little and know how to play on his strengths b4 developing into complete package and eleminating his weaknesses ,if the club can't afford to give him that chance that is fine and that is why a loan is the right decsision ,thing is Everton is the wrong choice and Sevilla might not yet prove to be the right one
You can argue that it is Gerard problem but I believe otherwise ,a player that talented should have been handled better ,also We are yet to have a player who succeed in the club after being loaned ,Rafinha has the chance to do it but it remains to be seen

 

[Adversus]

But people here are assuming that he is the same level of talent as Messi and Ronaldo.

And then are making 1000s of strange excuses of why he hasn't shown anything on a senior level yet.

1. first it was Everton, coaches and everything
2. then a bad guy Lucho didn't give him a proper chance in Barca to become a new Messi or Ronaldo
-- and that is all he needed. He "only" needed minutes and he would soon turn into a new Messi or Ronaldo
3. now, already there is an excuse that they played on the wrong/right level in that moment

I have been watching football/reading internet in those days the same as today:
1. Messi performed like a little wizzard in every minute whenever he entered the field
-- for Barca (senior team) and for Argentina NT senior team
-- from the age 17-18 he was trashing all opponents, aka 25-30-35 year old defenders
-- I was extremely happy whenever he was entering the field in the minute 70
-- you just knew that he will bring magic, goals and assists right away, in every single match
-- not only with one-two fancy moves and fancy celebrations, but with constant dribblings, running, workrate, defending, awesome linking up, and he fitted in Barca's senior team like as if he's been playing there for 20 Seasons already
-- there wasn't a single bad step in Messi's senior career since the age 17, and there wasn't a single minute where you could have wondered: "Will he make it or not?"
-- on every single match/in every single minute, he was already showing in every aspect (technical, tactical, mental, motivation, he wasn't arrogant at all) that he will be the greatest one day

Ronaldo?
-- very similar story (except that he is arrogant, and not the greatest of all time, as Messi)
-- he was trashing teams in Portuguese Liga in his first senior Season
-- he trashed Man Utd in that friendly, but not with 1-2 fancy moves
-- he was dribbling past 5 Man. Utd's defenders for virtually 90 minutes, 20-30 times during that match
-- Man. Utd then bought him since they lost Ronaldinho
-- from the day 1 in Man. Utd and from the first minute in Manchester, he was also an awesome player. In every move, touch, you could see that he is special
-- but, he was scoring, assisting, doing crazy dribbles and everything
-- he was only 18 years old
-- and he had no problems at all to show his talent on a senior level (both in Sporting and then in Man. Utd)
-- also, as a 19 year old boy, he was THE LEADER of Portuguese senior NT team, and he led them to the final of Euro 2004
-- again, he was only 19, and look how he already played on a senior level

And then we have a 20,5 year old Deulofeu, who has done virtually nothing in senior club career, not to mention senior NT team.

He is a huge talent, but comparing him with young Messi or young Ronaldo is just incredibly insane.
18 year old Messi benched Guily and Henrik Larsson.

20 year old Deulofeu can't get a place in Barca against guys like Pedro, and against kids like Munir and Sandro.

Deulofeu will probably never make it at Barca.
He will or he will not be a player for some other La Liga side one day, the time will tell.
But he SURELY won't be a new Messi or Ronaldo.

I think you will find I'm the Everton fan that said he wouldn't make it at Barca this season so I'm hardly making excuses for him.

The simple facts are is that he has probably been too pampered and got everything too easy up to the move to Everton as a result his development and mentality is a little bit behind. Part of the reason why Martinez didn't play him early on was also probably due to that and he was teaching him that he needed to earn it. I can imagine the same is going on at Sevilla although Martinez while might have been using tough love never also failed to try and pump up his confidence so I'm not sure it will be as effective.

Can that be fixed? There's no guarantee but he has definitely shown that he has the talent. Will he be CR or Messi - Probably not but those two are really special.

The other problem Deulofeu has is the same one Messi has now. Injuries have taken a little bit of pace of him. Messi isn't the same player as he was 3 years ago.

I remember Deulofeu's first few games at Everton - His pace was blistering and while he was never at the level of that video there where games he was outstanding.

 

[zanela]

Rarely do players escape my kiss of death. Deulo wasn't one of them. Sorry guys.

 

[Aryagorn]

Rarely do players escape my kiss of death. Deulo wasn't one of them. Sorry guys.

 

[instinct]

He'll start tonight!

 

[Zangash]

He starts tonight. Looks like he's every so slowly gaining Emery's favor. At this point last season he was still kicking around the bench wondering when he'd get to start, if ever.

Progress.

 

[André]

He scored.

 

[raki]

Very good goal.