Gerard Deulofeu

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Mike the Knife
Odd timing feeds into that suspect approach considering what he publicly said about the player & the deal with Barcelona in November coupled with how well Deulofeu was playing. Moreover, the fact that he can play on the left or right, it's inexplicable why he hasn't even played. Unless he's been a nutjob in training.

Imagine a scenario where Everton plays well with Deulofeu and the player develops more & more, it only increases his value and likelihood to be brought back by Barcelona - not a great longterm plan either
 

God Serena

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I find it very hard to believe that a manager in Martinez' position would take that gamble. He'll be lucky if he's even in the job next season as things stand.

Opportunity presents itself for the sole purpose of being taken advantage of. Lennon playing well is undoubtedly a large part of why Gerard finds himself on the bench. But that's because his form makes this so called "gamble" not much of a gamble at all.
 

Adversus

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Why not play Deulo on the left?

When we play Barry we need someone like Cleverly who can tuck inside and act as a 3rd CM. Barry is suspended so there is a chance he might play both Deulofeu and Lennon at the weekend but then again against Arsenal he may just prefer to play Cleverly again. It seems to be working using 7 players to defend and 3 to do the attacking Barkley, Lukaku and Lennon.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Well he finally played for the last 15 mins today vs Arsenal when Everton were 0-2 down.

Needless to say his presence on the bench is the reason Everton conceded the two goals. :mou:
 

God Serena

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Always great to see Everton lose.

You might fool yourself into thinking this might be a chance for Deulofeu to get some minutes in the coming games, but... nah.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
So he hasn't started a single game since January. Looks like he's getting the Sevilla treatment, big time.

It's clear there's something else going on that has little to do with their poor run of form or Lennon's improved play. Yesterday was an unmitigated disaster, they look like a side that is merely going through the motions which suggests a coach that has lost his players. Pointing to the obvious defensive errors is shortsighted since their biggest problems appear in midfield where they can neither push forward nor provide much transition defense

Personally, I think there are a multitude of problems at Everton, Martinez just happens to be the popular choice to point fingers at

Per usual, Deulofeu's development suffering, still.
 

God Serena

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It's clear there's something else going on that has little to do with their poor run of form or Lennon's improved play. Yesterday was an unmitigated disaster, they look like a side that is merely going through the motions which suggests a coach that has lost his players. Pointing to the obvious defensive errors is shortsighted since their biggest problems appear in midfield where they can neither push forward nor provide much transition defense

Personally, I think there are a multitude of problems at Everton, Martinez just happens to be the popular choice to point fingers at

Per usual, Deulofeu's development suffering, still.

I can agree with you on that. If you go back through the thread you'll see an absolutely comical list of what's wrong with the team from Adversus that changed with the wind. At one point Deulofeu not being defensive was even his complaint of the week. :lol:

I don't see Deulofeu staying with such a team for very long. He's good enough to start for them in every game but he's not even getting Pedro minutes.

Edit: This is post 1,111 for me. This post is special.
 

Galning

Moderator
Not sure if it's Deulofeu's fault, or just very bad luck.

Whatever it is, ever since he's been benched it hasn't been the same for Everton. That said, it's been 3 managers now, who regardless of his potential and performances, decide to bench/drop him. Coincidence?
 

God Serena

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Whatever it is, ever since he's been benched it hasn't been the same for Everton. That said, it's been 3 managers now, who regardless of his potential and performances, decide to bench/drop him. Coincidence?

Three? Martinez and Emery are only two. Lucho doesn't even count really, he didn't even start a single preseason game. Not to mention both Deulofeu and Denis Suarez left Sevilla to become crucial members of their new teams (At least Deulofeu was for the first half of the season) even after getting dropped, so that'd suggest the issue was mainly with Emery.
 

Galning

Moderator
Three? Martinez and Emery are only two. Lucho doesn't even count really, he didn't even start a single preseason game. Not to mention both Deulofeu and Denis Suarez left Sevilla to become crucial members of their new teams (At least Deulofeu was for the first half of the season) even after getting dropped, so that'd suggest the issue was mainly with Emery.

Lucho counts in my book, he got dropped while he was presented as first team member together with Rafinha. Think of it what you want.
 

Adversus

New member
I can agree with you on that. If you go back through the thread you'll see an absolutely comical list of what's wrong with the team from Adversus that changed with the wind. At one point Deulofeu not being defensive was even his complaint of the week. :lol:

I don't see Deulofeu staying with such a team for very long. He's good enough to start for them in every game but he's not even getting Pedro minutes.

Edit: This is post 1,111 for me. This post is special.

The problems with Everton are varied but they all boil down to the fact Martinez is a rubbish manager who can't defend or motivate players to perform consistently. We have the same problems as Wigan which was the team he managed before us.

Now back to Deulofeu. Martinez only plays one winger. It's either Deulofeu or Lennon and Lennon has been our best player recently. It's that simple. It sucks for Deulofeu but there's nothing more to read into it.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Whatever it is, ever since he's been benched it hasn't been the same for Everton. That said, it's been 3 managers now, who regardless of his potential and performances, decide to bench/drop him. Coincidence?

It's true that it's odd that he continues to suffer in his development by not playing but 3 managers? I think it's only 2, non? Unless you're pointing to Lucho who never really played him in preseason for any meaningful minutes.

Emery who has a very specific plan for Sevilla and player development that never coincided with Deulofeu or to a similar extent with Suarez who also found his way to the bench (This could also have had some influence from Monchi who is looking at talent and the bottom line better than most). Martinez, I would argue, has yet to see any of his Everton players improve during his tenure. Barkley, Stones & McCarthy have all regressed from their first season under Roberto. Plus, Everton have been hugely disappointing which may mean a coaching change too. Certainly is illogical how Deulofeu has barely played a minute since November when Martinez pointed out during Gerard's terrific run of games that they were powerless from Barcelona taking him back. Still say it is linked to the buyback option which is really a form of an incentivised loan

Meanwhile, everytime he plays for Spain Deulofeu not only plays well but also is Captain. There's an inconsistency there that makes little sense in terms of the player.



Now back to Deulofeu. Martinez only plays one winger. It's either Deulofeu or Lennon and Lennon has been our best player recently. It's that simple. It sucks for Deulofeu but there's nothing more to read into it.

Doesn't sound like you watch your team very much otherwise you'd realize that Roberto routinely played with 2 wingers
 
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