Gerardo "Tata" Martino

Djab

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I think we should NOT get rid of him for the reasons below:

1.He is having a good season so far losing just two games until the Christmas break.
2.He had not the time put his mark fully on the team.
3.The rumours say that if he goes the successor week be Scolari so a big no should be said here.
4.He changed the team a bit and enhanced it, (counter attack,etc.)

We should give him at least one more season, and let him add players to the roster and then decide.
Just my opinion.
 

aaron101

Active member
If Rosell is the man in charge, nothing is impossible.:tata1:

You forgot that Rosell hired Tata Martino all the way from Argentina and made him quit Newell's. Vilanova wasn't better than Tata yet Rosell gave him another season despite his illness. You think he will sack Tata just because we lost 2 games (so far) and it's even half the season?
 
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Neymessi

Active member
This guy has had a good result this season with us but that does not mean he is a good coach. He started cesc as false 9 in so many matches and sometimes it cost us.He played cesc as false 9 in the el classico and we could have easily not win there. Even a moron can figure out cesc at false 9 is a disaster. Clearly this guy doesn't seem to understand. Had we lost that el classico you guys would have been accusing tata to be stupid.
He is a good manager but cesc as false 9 has to stop. Also playing mascherano instead of bartra is irritating.
 

ebc_99

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This guy has had a good result this season with us but that does not mean he is a good coach. He started cesc as false 9 in so many matches and sometimes it cost us.He played cesc as false 9 in the el classico and we could have easily not win there. Even a moron can figure out cesc at false 9 is a disaster. Clearly this guy doesn't seem to understand. Had we lost that el classico you guys would have been accusing tata to be stupid.
He is a good manager but cesc as false 9 has to stop. Also playing mascherano instead of bartra is irritating.

That is 3 coaches in a row who play Cesc at false 9, Pep, Tito and Tata so there must be a reason for it. The way I see it is that Tata feels Neymar has to stay left so he gets used to that postion as that is where he will be for the next few years, Pedro can't play false 9 and Alexis is so strong on the right this season that Cesc is the best choice at false 9 for a prolonged period. If Messi is rested in a one off game then I would play Neymar but for 2 months it is better to play Cesc there. It is not ideal but we need another forward to take that position in the future but of the current squad Cesc is the best choice to fill in for Messi.
 

Neymessi

Active member
That is 3 coaches in a row who play Cesc at false 9, Pep, Tito and Tata so there must be a reason for it. The way I see it is that Tata feels Neymar has to stay left so he gets used to that postion as that is where he will be for the next few years, Pedro can't play false 9 and Alexis is so strong on the right this season that Cesc is the best choice at false 9 for a prolonged period. If Messi is rested in a one off game then I would play Neymar but for 2 months it is better to play Cesc there. It is not ideal but we need another forward to take that position in the future but of the current squad Cesc is the best choice to fill in for Messi.

Cesc can never be a better choice instead of Neymar. NEymar has been playing on the left his whole life and he can play in the centre and score and play again in the left in the next match. Cesc is horrible at finishing at false 9. When you play cesc as false 9 you are not only taking away a chance from a great striker like neymar or pedro to score you are taking away a gem from midfield ie fabregas himself who plays amazing in the mid. Shouldn't cesc also play in the mid only coz when messi is back cesc has to play in midfield only and should get used to??except the 2 goals that cesc scored against getafe, i don't remember him scoring or assisting in that position.Neymar is a much better option and so is pedro or sanchez. Even when messi is there like in el classico he shifted messi to the wings and cesc in the middle.LOL.wtf was that??
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
This guy has had a good result this season with us but that does not mean he is a good coach. He started cesc as false 9 in so many matches and sometimes it cost us.He played cesc as false 9 in the el classico and we could have easily not win there. Even a moron can figure out cesc at false 9 is a disaster. Clearly this guy doesn't seem to understand. Had we lost that el classico you guys would have been accusing tata to be stupid.
He is a good manager but cesc as false 9 has to stop. Also playing mascherano instead of bartra is irritating.

Playing Cesc at false nine and Messi at right wing, almost completely shutdown Madrid's left flank. Tata pulled a fast one on Ancelloti, who got his tactics all wrong. And that's how we won the Clasico. I'm sure if we had an actual nine, he would have played in place of Fab, but that's besides the point. It's also probably why the rumors keep insisting that Tata wants a center forward.
 

Neymessi

Active member
Playing Cesc at false nine and Messi at right wing, almost completely shutdown Madrid's left flank. Tata pulled a fast one on Ancelloti, who got his tactics all wrong. And that's how we won the Clasico. I'm sure if we had an actual nine, he would have played in place of Fab, but that's besides the point. It's also probably why the rumors keep insisting that Tata wants a center forward.

So in a big game messi should be shifted on the wing and cesc played as false 9? Is that what you are implying? I don't think cesc can serve a poorer performance as he has done as being a false 9. Except the last 2 goals,0 goals and 0 assists. The guy is virtually invisible. Surely there are better options.In a high scoring game against manc at etihad, cesc at false 9 is going to get us raped.
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
So in a big game messi should be shifted on the wing and cesc played as false 9? Is that what you are implying? I don't think cesc can serve a poorer performance as he has done as being a false 9. Except the last 2 goals,0 goals and 0 assists. The guy is virtually invisible. Surely there are better options.In a high scoring game against manc at etihad, cesc at false 9 is going to get us raped.

Of course not. I was just pointing out how a coach should be adaptable. Messi playing right centrally works, especially if he has a striker in front of him like Villa in the AC Milan game last season. Too bad we don't have another center forward to play in front of Messi this season, so we have to use Cesc.
 

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