Gini Wijnaldum

DonAK

DonAK

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Simping for Bartomeu(until Barto ignored Rakitic and went back on his word anyway) and how he portrayed himself as a selfless player, but went on to cry to the press selfishly is what soured my view of him the most.
 
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ArtistCatalunya

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Gini Wijnaldum (Holland); Age: 30.5 actually. ; Position: Box-to-Box player.

The (+):
- The Availability, reliability: He disputed a huuuge number of games in Liverpool, under Klopp. Rarely absent.
- His very good physical abilities: good stamina, movement, and pace: He is a "workhorse". This can be a useful profile for this squad of Barcelona. His profile is quite similar to Vidal, Paulinho. He seems a bit faster than them, though.
- Press-resistant: Although he is not a technical talent, he has that capacity to keep the ball under pressure, which is important.
- A good team-player, got a positive mentality and a humble personality.
- Got a lot of experience.
- A free transfer.

The (-):
- The lack of creativity: His passing game is average (let's say just decent, no more). He has this problem of slowing down the game or doing easy passes with no significant impact. / Needs to be surrounded by technical players.
- He is not a young player anymore. His physical abilities may decline progressively in the next seasons.
 
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Laplacian

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If he comes here this thread might turn out to be quite hilarious within 10 months or so. The reason why he works so well for Liverpool is because for a long time Liverpool didn't require its midfielders to create, creativity is usually asserted through its fullbacks. That's why technically average players like Henderson, Wijnaldum, and Milner work so well in the team; they're not required to do "traditional" midfield job. Before Thiago, Fabinho, the DM, was probably the most creative of the lot.

It's going to be funny watching Gini in Barcelona, a team that heavily depends on midfield creativity and individual ability. A lot of you currently praising him will be writing essays about why he's such a failed transfer, because you were expecting remontada 2019 Gini instead of 2020/2021 Gini.
 
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Barcilliant

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KingLeo10 said:
Rakitic was an absolute beast in 14/15. And really good in 15/16. It's the last 3-4 years that soured people IMO on him, Suarez, Busquets, Pique, and a few other seniors. Even Messi for some forumers.
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Rakitic was burnt out after those two seasons and should have been moved on. He did an extraordinary amount of work up and down the pitch.
Gini is similar but less technical but physically stronger. If nothing else he'd be a good rotation option. It's hard to believe we actually had a quality option like Keita ON THE FRIGGING BENCH.
Nowadays he'd be an undisputed starter lol.
 
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ArtistCatalunya

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Overall, I am happy with Wijnaldum coming to Barcelona.
I think it's useful for any team to have a physical player, a runner; like Ngolo Kante for example in chelsea.
Wijnaldum has a similar profile than Vidal and Paulinho. But I think he is better than them in two areas :
1/ He is faster than them
2/ He is better in ball retention, being a "press-resistant" player (even if he is not skilled at passing).
 
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malvolio

malvolio

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Laplacian said:
If he comes here this thread might turn out to be quite hilarious within 10 months or so. The reason why he works so well for Liverpool is because for a long time Liverpool didn't require its midfielders to create, creativity is usually asserted through its fullbacks. That's why technically average players like Henderson, Wijnaldum, and Milner work so well in the team; they're not required to do "traditional" midfield job. Before Thiago, Fabinho, the DM, was probably the most creative of the lot.

It's going to be funny watching Gini in Barcelona, a team that heavily depends on midfield creativity and individual ability. A lot of you currently praising him will be writing essays about why he's such a failed transfer, because you were expecting remontada 2019 Gini instead of 2020/2021 Gini.
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So basically a Paulinho or Vidal when it comes to passing/creativity. Yeah, that type of midfielder really shines here.
 
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Klysmakabouter

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Laplacian said:
If he comes here this thread might turn out to be quite hilarious within 10 months or so. The reason why he works so well for Liverpool is because for a long time Liverpool didn't require its midfielders to create, creativity is usually asserted through its fullbacks. That's why technically average players like Henderson, Wijnaldum, and Milner work so well in the team; they're not required to do "traditional" midfield job. Before Thiago, Fabinho, the DM, was probably the most creative of the lot.

It's going to be funny watching Gini in Barcelona, a team that heavily depends on midfield creativity and individual ability. A lot of you currently praising him will be writing essays about why he's such a failed transfer, because you were expecting remontada 2019 Gini instead of 2020/2021 Gini.
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I don?t think you watched a lot of Dutch NT games, or Liverpool games for that matter. He is far from technically average, as it is impossible to dispossess hem. He is very consistent and is often played in the most pressed areas of the pitch. Being one of Klopps first names on the team sheet.

I feel you?re conflating flashy play, lots of distance shooting and long passing, with being creative. He plays simple and effective. Quick link-up play. It?s boring yess, but it works and gives you?re most creative players A LOT more space when they get the ball. There is a reason Liverpool wins way more games with Wijnaldum than when he?s not played. They score more when he plays.

Wijnaldum comes without a transferfee. Is easily miles better than Pjanic. And is known to fit in well with Koemans system (often played as a 10, also scoring quit often by the way as he did with all the teams he played before Liverpoool) It?s a bargain.

I think he will be a fan favorite in 10 months. You can quote this then.
 
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malvolio

malvolio

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Klysmakabouter said:
He plays simple and effective. Quick link-up play. It?s boring yess, but it works and gives you?re most creative players A LOT more space when they get the ball. There is a reason Liverpool wins way more games with Wijnaldum than when he?s not played. They score more when he plays.
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ok, so he's not paulinho 100% as he gets the simple short passes right. at least that's in line with our style.

And is known to fit in well with Koemans system (often played as a 10, also scoring quit often by the way as he did with all the teams he played before Liverpoool)
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good thing we don't have messi, griezmann and possibly depay to play 10 for us then.
 
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mc_lovin

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Do people really see something of Paulinho/Vidal when watching Wijnaldum? Not a comparison that springs to mind for me.
 
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JamDav1982

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mc_lovin said:
Do people really see something of Paulinho/Vidal when watching Wijnaldum? Not a comparison that springs to mind for me.
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No it is a terrible comparison but even if Wijnaldum can add to the Barca team what he does for Dutch team and gives some of what Paulinho did in final third that would be a positive.

Paulinho was limited but what he brought in helping press and a physical presence in the box helped Barca and Messi.

Those that dont like Wijnaldum signing are quick to try create strawman arguments about what others 'expect' then try to dismiss it. When they are not even close.
 
fergus90

fergus90

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I still maintain Wijnaldum's best season in the Prem was when he was deployed further forward at Newcastle.

He's free though and will be a useful squad player so not too much to get upset about.
 
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