Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
This team under flick has a clear style and gameplay, there are clears patterns of play and attacking movements as well as defensive shape. Under Xavi there was nothing and they couldn't even keep the ball vs mid table teams.

This team needs to get rid of the likes of kounde, de jong, pedri, gavi, Garcia, fati, ferran these are players who are not good enough. At least 2 midfielders need to be bought who are not midgets instead as well as 2 right backs and a real left back. Then a left winger to rotate.

Then we can talk about competing consistently

I hope your dumbass realizes XAVI won the league with the same players you want to get rid of..
Where as Flick has managed to give away the league title.. which was gift wrapped for him
 

jamrock

Senior Member
That's your opinion. My opinion about people demanding things like you do I edited in the last sentence.
No the facts tells you you're wrong.

You think pep is controlling games because of the players physically fitness, it's elite football, everyone is fit.

It's the system that brings control.

If you are up by 1 goal, you are the one that should be exploiting space the opponent leaves behind, when trying to level. under flick it's the other way around, we are the one hunting for a goal, when we are 1 goal up with minutes left on the clock.

The two games he won by 1 goal, he could have lost them both, Valencia has more than enough opportunities to win and rayo showed us early, one of his other big flaws, which is terrible substitutions.

we would still have bernal now, if he took him off, he had no reason to be on the field at that point.

It's not about the physical level of the players, it's about the system, and the players being tired is also on him, because his rotations and subs aren't optional, having his best players on the pitch, when games are down and dusted.

He just needs to make simple adjustments.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Just went and checked the last 10 years in la Liga, 16/17 was the only time a team conceded 40 goals and won the title, that was Madrid and they only won by 3 points.

If we win this season, that's how it's going to happen, unless he tightens things up a bit.

Stress all the way to the very end.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
We are obviously not winning

We have 5 points in 5 games

We need a complete collapse from Madrid to win the league.
I believe they are closer to figuring shit out than collapsing again unless mbappe has an ego trip.

But he's been humbled by VINi and Bellingham. Not happening.

Once they figure shit out, next claisco will be the easiest game for them with the way we play.

Unless flick shows some flexibility.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Just went and checked the last 10 years in la Liga, 16/17 was the only time a team conceded 40 goals and won the title, that was Madrid and they only won by 3 points.

If we win this season, that's how it's going to happen, unless he tightens things up a bit.

Stress all the way to the very end.

We won the league in 98 conceeding 56 goals in 38 games. :rockon:

Those who say Xavi is close to Van Gaal in management are well off the mark. Flick is closer to Van Gaal v1, Bobby Robson and Cryuff than any of our managers in the 20+ years since then.

If you don't admire Flick and say you favour Barca DNA, then you are lying to yourselves as Barca DNA pre 2001 and post 2004 (Rijkaard then Pep) are two entirely different things.

Post isn't directed at you directly btw, just pointing out that Barca DNA and Pep DNA are two different things that have conceptually been merged since the sextuple.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
We won the league in 98 conceeding 56 goals in 38 games. :rockon:

Those who say Xavi is close to Van Gaal in management are well off the mark. Flick is closer to Van Gaal v1, Bobby Robson and Cryuff than any of our managers in the 20+ years since then.

If you don't admire Flick and say you favour Barca DNA, then you are lying to yourselves as Barca DNA pre 2001 and post 2004 (Rijkaard then Pep) are two entirely different things.

Post isn't directed at you directly btw, just pointing out that Barca DNA and Pep DNA are two different things that have conceptually been merged since the sextuple.
They meant Xavi is close to van gaal in that he left the team in a solid state when after he left.

Which I'm sure you know thats what was meant lol, not coaching style.

Barca DNA is pep and cryuff, others who are some what different comes in time to time.

But it's cryuff and pep, the two coaches that leveled up the club to a different level.

If flick can do the same, he could have a long term impact on our "DNA".
 

TacticsTim

Active member
Except Xavi won the league with super lucky 1-0 wins and opponents missing sitters and then got trashed in Europa league. The football was trash and real had an incomplete team. I don't know if you guys are really dense or just watch with your eyes closed on tiktok
 

Ter Stature

Active member
Except Xavi won the league with super lucky 1-0 wins and opponents missing sitters and then got trashed in Europa league. The football was trash and real had an incomplete team. I don't know if you guys are really dense or just watch with your eyes closed on tiktok
Conceding few goals isn't lucky.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Except Xavi won the league with super lucky 1-0 wins and opponents missing sitters and then got trashed in Europa league. The football was trash and real had an incomplete team. I don't know if you guys are really dense or just watch with your eyes closed on tiktok

Do you work for CNN?
 

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