Ivan Rakitić
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Messigician
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Great pass that messi wasted
Arizona Scott
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He was the connector until we got Arthur on. He added a lot of stability and brain to the offense. But his lack of pace and freshness was an issue, particularly with a lot of other slow players out there, and Vidal and Roberto left the D out of dry multiple times on counters. Frustrated he didn't get about half the math off yesterday.
I think selling this summer would be fine if the price is right (50 mil). I think him and Kante would be an exceptional pairing and would make Chelsea a significantly better team.
I think selling this summer would be fine if the price is right (50 mil). I think him and Kante would be an exceptional pairing and would make Chelsea a significantly better team.
Arizona Scott
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You see him getting Jorginho's position
Jorginho hasn't been near what was advertised this year, yeah rakitic would be better. Besides there is a possibility all 3 could play and either way they wont all play every match. Chelsea is lacking in discipline, control and footballing brains control in the midfield--i really think rakitic would help the load on kante and jorgino a lot.
Arizona Scott
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The EPL is faster than La Liga ... I don't think he'd ever get a touch
He has a quicker mind and better technique than Henderson or Dier, and those guys play for some of the best EPL teams. Seriously folks need to rewatch the world cup (not just the England match though that is a good one) and get out of the "what a Barca midfielder" should be tunnel vision. Of course Jorginho didn't play in the world cup but hasn't been Henderson level in the epl.
The EPL is faster than La Liga ... I don't think he'd ever get a touch
The epl isn't quicker. There is more direct play from weaker teams but all the top teams pass the ball more often just like most la liga teams and in doing so create more time on the ball
Arizona Scott
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Well I watch a lot of City, and Rakitic has been a better player than De Bruyne for most all of the season. Otamendi has also been way better than Umtiti this year too--thet can chew on that one.
The more apt comparisons are to Fernandinho, Gundogan and Delph, and Rakiti is def better than the latter two. Hopefully this year we will see Fernandinho and co in a midfield against Rakitic and company and find out.
Quite honestly I think selling Rakitic to one of the Manchester clubs (if City falls short in the CL would not surprise me in the least), PSG or Chelsea will make a lot of sense. He would help Liverpool too but they don't buy 30 year old, expensive, players.
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DonAK
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Rakitic has been a better player than someone that's hardly played this season. What an achievement!
Sorry for being blunt, but you must either be blind or dumb to take Rakitic over De Bruyne. If Barcelona ever were offered a straight swap between these two Bartomeu would prob put Rakitic in his trunk and drive him to Manchester personally to deliver him to Man City.
Delph rarely plays in the midfield so not comparable either. Nor is Fernandinho who plays as a pure DM and covers a lot of ground with his energy and athleticism.
The most apt comparisons for Rakitic are De Bruyne and David Silva considering the roles they play. And I would take both KDB and Silva with his attacking output over Rakitic and rather play with a pure DM instead of Busquets if I had to.
Sorry for being blunt, but you must either be blind or dumb to take Rakitic over De Bruyne. If Barcelona ever were offered a straight swap between these two Bartomeu would prob put Rakitic in his trunk and drive him to Manchester personally to deliver him to Man City.
Delph rarely plays in the midfield so not comparable either. Nor is Fernandinho who plays as a pure DM and covers a lot of ground with his energy and athleticism.
The most apt comparisons for Rakitic are De Bruyne and David Silva considering the roles they play. And I would take both KDB and Silva with his attacking output over Rakitic and rather play with a pure DM instead of Busquets if I had to.
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khaled_a_d
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Don't think he had a bad game tbh, could have fouled Rodrigo and prevented 1st goal though.
That being said, if Raki is DM then Arthur should be playing, not Vidal-Alena midfield
That being said, if Raki is DM then Arthur should be playing, not Vidal-Alena midfield
Not defending Rakitic, but that sure is an achievement.
One is always available when needed, while other was injured during the same.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/ivan-rakitic/verletzungen/spieler/32467
https://www.transfermarkt.com/kevin-de-bruyne/verletzungen/spieler/88755
You do have a better player in De Bruyne, but what's the use when he isn't even available when needed.
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Cule4life
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The KDB comparison in all ways is ridiculous so I gave the appropriate response—yes this year Rakitic has been much better than Kevin, because Kevin has been watching from the stands and can only give a pale faced cheer of Go Citizens. KBD is probably best attacking mid in the game when healthy—better than all but maybe 3 Barca players. For comparisons like that they should have one of their strikers (even if not the same position) be compared to Messi—that is about as appropriate as the KDB-Rakitic comparison.
No I think the best Man City comparisons for Rakitic are indeed Fernandinho, and secondly Gundogan. Delph would also be a comparison for how Delph has played his whole career but I don’t think Pep think he is good enough to play mid on his team and has depth issues in the back line and thus uses them. Personally I do think Rakitic is better than Gundogan, I think with Fernandinho it is a bit of wash—each has their strengths relative to the other. Yes Fernandinho is your traditional destroyer, but no one would compare his touch and passing ability to Rakitic. Busi isn’t like Fernandino either, but yes these two play as DCMs (as does Rakitic frequently). Plus Fernandinho is going to be 34 soon, City needs reinforcements next summer—this is why I do think Rakitic could well be of interest to Pep if their current core finishes their season disappointedly. I would think City would pay even bigger money for Busi, but likely take either one if offered.
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