Joan Laporta

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Olmo being registered does not mean they are back to 1:1 at all.

Tebas being the 'enemy' is a convenient excuse when the finances are not where they should be and FFP is tight.

The rules are there for the whole league and it is not Tebas fault Barca are paying 40m+ on the books for a 36 year old.. nor is it his fault Barca had to pay off Xavis staff after renewing them.. nor is it his fault the club have missed on close to 150m odd from European failures.

To make out all would be fine if in stadium is just pure ignorance.. the levers were pulled to get in a team that can compete at home and abroad and not lose out on the income as above.

Things will clearly improve when stadium opens but they will be playing catch up more than should be and will it will still impact FFP.

Same folk mouthing off about how Barca were signing players and mocking those who said not easy due to FFP situation changing goals posts as usual.

Same folk probably celebrate as if won a trophy if Olmo gets registered.
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
Because we were high spenders, high earners and we counted a lot on the stadium. Then we renewed the stadium after the Covid storm was off.
Right now we are spending more than most Italian and German teams. The reason we think we are in financial ruins is because we always push the limits, but those limits exists and force the club to go back to it's ways.

We are calling Olmo today, and if he is registered it is most likely means we are 1:1 with a top 7 squad or so in Europe and 2nd best squad in Spain, while losing close to 100M in revenue due to stadium renewal.

We don't agree on everything, but one will never accuse you of not being level headed.

How many times I've told people the same thing, I just stop looking over here the last couple of days.

Are things perfect,? No. but if anyone takes the time to rationally look at things, it's not as bad as they believe.

We are losing millions by not being at the stadium, if we were at the camp nou, that alone would solve the issues we have with the registrations.

Not to mention other things I can't be bothered to get into right now.

So much Emo and agendas here.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Once we get back to the to the camp nou, finally get all those old wages off our books.

Without anything else, we will be competing at the top of Europe again from a financial prospective.

Their will be a few windows we have to go quiet, in order to pay for the stadium.

But It will be more like Madrid does now, 2 windows where we go cheap, 1 big window.

Which is really how any club should be ran and what we were doing back in the day.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Wont happen and this next election or the one after will be fought on external investment in order to compete and restructure the debts/levers in place if possible.

Wait and see.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Where did the money from the levels actual go? Like the Live 750m cash, where did it go?.

We showed it as income to register players, but what happened to the actual money?.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I'm not even sure what some of you are arguing against.

Do you believe there were strong enough financial controls/limits within the club to stop Bartomeu from creating the highest payroll in football, from taking out a 100m+ loan to sign Griezmann among various other things? The club's spending wasn't pushing the limits, it was destroying it which led to the situation it ended up in after COVID.

Using the Tebas excuse is poor. Tebas is holding the club accountable to the rules they and everyone else agreed on. Sure it might make Spanish Football weaker, but there's no way Barca should be in this position if the club had proper limits set in place to stop them from doing one stupid thing after the other.

My point is about the club's ownership structure and how they need third party controls to ensure something like that doesn't happen again in the future, and if not that, then bring in investors because having no one to stop an idiot with a credit card is surely going to land the club in a massive hole again in the future.

The board itself should not hire the person responsible for holding them accountable, because how often will that happen? They usually hire someone from within their circle that supports them.

Whether or not we'll be on the same level as Real Madrid financially and as strong as them post-Camp Nou completion and the deferred wages off is another matter. That's what they are saying, but we'll see about that. Not drinking that hopium up yet considering the amount of times they've said one thing which turned out to be something else.

It *should* be much better, but the truth always lies somewhere in the middle and we'll have to see how these deals they've made will cost or not cost us in the future.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Same folk who said for months Olmo should not be signed and Gundo has to stay will do bakcflips if Olmo is registered today and make out they were correct all along and it was some kind of 'masterclass'

Usual.

Same folk who when thought board backed Xavi mocked those who said he should go.. he goes.. silence etc.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Same folk who said for months Olmo should not be signed and Gundo has to stay will do bakcflips if Olmo is registered today and make out they were correct all along and it was some kind of 'masterclass'

Usual.

Same folk who when thought board backed Xavi mocked those who said he should go.. he goes.. silence etc.
Same folk who told us barto is good president.

Who told us laporta and Tixki just got lucky and anyone could do what they did.

😂

Tell us what happen to the 750m, because if it just disappeared their needs to be a massive investigation into laporta.

He showed it as Income, but then what happened to the money???
 

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JamDav1982

Senior Member
Fake news.... feel free to check back on what on the way Barto and amigos were going towards end of run without any long term decisions being made on squad and how much money players getting.

Txkiki is decent not great. Looks better when has Pep by his side.

What about the 750m?

You still dont understand the levers?

Again.. you are wrong on levers being needed or selling players to restructure debt and Laporta himself said would not be getting pulled if not for FFP rules.

Keep telling us how Olmo is not needed and mocking those who said board would want Gundo gone if could...

Same with Xavi.

Go tell us how Laporta turned finances around by getting rid of Suarez... not a single clue.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Fake news.... feel free to check back on what on the way Barto and amigos were going towards end of run without any long term decisions being made on squad and how much money players getting.

Txkiki is decent not great. Looks better when has Pep by his side.

What about the 750m?

You still dont understand the levers?

Again.. you are wrong on levers being needed or selling players to restructure debt and Laporta himself said would not be getting pulled if not for FFP rules.

Keep telling us how Olmo is not needed and mocking those who said board would want Gundo gone if could...

Same with Xavi.

Jammy where did the 750m go?

We ALL know your views on barto, talking about towards the end 😂 😂.

I don't even know what you're talking about re Olmo and gundogan, more deflection.

When you figure out where the 750m went, DM me.

Until then bye.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Yes my views on Barto are clear... go read them.. I commented on good and bad.. and towards the end was one of the most vocal about how they were not renewing the squad as couldnt see past own end of term and wasting too much money.

All there.

You have no clue how the levers even work if think that '750m' point has any relevance.

You dont even have enough of a clue to understand what you are asking.

Point on Olmo... some said wouldnt be signed.. not needed etc.. he is signed and tune changes. Then mock folk for saying Gundo should go and board would get rid if could.

Simples.

Go tell us again how Laporta helped 'save' the club by getting rid likes of Suarez.... or that 'Barca had to sell players or pull levers to restructure debt'.

Utter ignorant nonsense.
 

companyofcules

Well-known member
Barcelona have always signed big stars, and always spent a lot of money in the transfer market.

To believe the club can survive long-term without being one of the big dogs in the market is stupid. Two ways to solve that. Get back on track financially and instill strong third party financial controls in the club so that any new elected board that always thinks short-term cannot destroy the club.

Or open up for investors.

Considering the club themselves hires the person responsible for holding them accountable financially like Bartomeu did with Tusquets I don't have high hopes for any groundbreaking change in existing structure of the club.
The club survived almost 20 years of mediocrity, then another 10 and another 10. Bilbao God knows how many.
For sure we can, we can go to a selling club status. Only Fati whould have been 100 something, we can sell Lamine and others.

The point is, you are like the followers of the pedophile or the Bantu eternal victims.

You came uninvited atracted by the glamour of FCB (catalans might be stupid or subjective but they built something you will never find in Peasant EPL the Bedouin lands, India, Euroasia, Germany, Italy) you asked for more and more spendings to brag about and now you want your Servile ass bending system from god knows what failed comunity.

Let the catalans enjoy their club and find a team that can do that.
Now, for me the club status is non-negotiable, there are plenty of Football Companies or Franco Madrid for teenagers with wounded egos.
I get some of you are frustrated but the game goes on without you.
 

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